I think we need a study group of sorts.

Here's my first request for help:

The thing to do is ask me politely about specific words and sentences. "what did you mean by this?" would be far more efficient than a whole new thread.

I have to ask that you to stop mocking my language use capability. I have decide not to keep track of who I ask this, so I apologize if I have asked you before and it sounds repetitive. Other people might not like it, so I have heard.

You clearly have problems communicating and using language capably. Asking you for clarification doesn't seem to help very often. So I think we should look at other options. Working as a group on this should help people understand you better.

You're welcome!

Writing more clearly would be even more efficient.

It isn't harder to type "don't make fun of my poor writing skills" instead of "don't mock my language use capabilities."

It also happens to be an unreasonable request.

Ughhhh, do you really expect people to believe this thread is primarily an innocent means to gain understanding as opposed to a new way to attempt a pile on?

For real for real, you going hard on Spank after the green swap makes you look real mad bro. Get over it.

I think a behavioural nerd would realize I was being sarcastic - because a behavioural nerd would realize that nobody would take Spank's comments about his language capability seriously.

In terms of looking real mad, I'd point out I was pretty supportive of him up until he decided to troll us with his support of TheKid.

Aren't you a neurological nerd?

It wasn't my emphasis, but if you'd like to claim a specific neurological disorder, I can look into it.

Brian, what was your emphasis and how long have you been retired? Are you a PsyD?

That's not why I am asking. I am not sure why you would think a polite firm request about a specific, personal neurologically-related attribute would be unreasonable? I have been outspoken about practicing personal behavior improvement of my writing, but beyond that, it does not seem to be that serious forum business to consider asking me if I can clarify. I'll even explain failed attempts at humor and you can make fun of me for being a bad comedian.

Spanky is a jibberish nerd.

Because writing clearly is more efficient and there isn't a specific neurological condition that would cause someone to type "language use capabilities" instead of "poor writing skills."

Poor writing skills is not synonymous with language use capability, though it can be an obviously related concept.

How do think/feel about people asserting their personal boundaries with polite, firm requests? Which, however your opinion of how they are written, are basically understandable?

Is it more reasonable for another person to call- out a personal attribute of person in the manner of the OP, than it is for a person to politely, firmly request that stop? If you want to explain how and why I would become a better communicator because of this kind of thread, I'll give it a listen. Otherwise I don't see why my self-interest on the matter is weaker than the OPs

It seems far easier to respond affirmatively to the request than it is to leave a series of potential unanswered polite, firm requests.

Why would my reasoning and self-interest be poorer than the reasoning and self-interest of the person who makes this type of thread? If they are equal, then it is still MY personal attribute, which tips the scales in my view.

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He said that he's in great pain and he wants to know if you can help him.

Why are you mentioning pain? Does it pain people to receive polite, firm requests? If so, that is uncanny.

I really meant that post for the other Wookie moderator.

I dig that rap.

Spank,

I think it's perfectly fair that you object to this thread. It comes across as an excuse to mock and is uncalled for. That said, as probably the closest thing to an impartial observer who may post ITT, I agree that your posts are sometimes very difficult to understand.

It's not your only problem but I think you'd do well to concentrate on being as concise as you can. If you use fewer words, there will be fewer chances for the meaning to go astray. You use too many adjectives and adverbs which make your sentences clunky. If you write your posts out "naturally" and then read back looking for opportunities to simplify, I guarantee you will see an improvement. You just need to look for ways to trim your posts without losing any meaning.

I picked one example to show you what I mean:

"How do think/feel about people asserting their personal boundaries with polite, firm requests?"

becomes

"How do you feel about people politely asserting their boundaries?"

Explanation:

1. "How do you feel about...?" is basically the same as "What do you think of...?". You only need to choose one. This is a good example of how you can trip yourself up by overcomplicating things. "How do you think about people asserting..." is not what you meant but it comes across as an acceptable meaning by the way you constructed that sentence.

2. You can drop "firm" as it's covered in the meaning of "assert".

3. You don't need to explain the mechanism for your assertion. It's a message board so everybody assume it'll be a written request.

WTF are you doing here?

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NO CHAINS MOTHER****ER.

In what sense? This isn't the first time I have posted in PU if that's what you mean.

What motivated me to post that is that this isn't the first time I have seen behaviour that looks a lot like bullying directed at spank. I don't even read this subforum very often but every time I do, there's something like this, and it seems to be relentless. I know bullying when I see it and I don't particularly care if somebody thinks there is some nuance that I am missing.

So, as a counterpoint, I wanted to offer something helpful and constructive. Spank seems to admit that his writing skills leave a lot to be desired. Pulling him up every single time and mocking him helps nobody. Making practical suggestions on how to improve might.

The bullying is a feature not a bug. This place is for personally attacking posters, in case you were wondering.

I've lurked politics for a long time, so I understand how PU came to be. Things are let slide here that would be stamped out elsewhere. I get that.

In real life, there are plenty of things you can do that are wrong but aren't breaking the law, and so it is here. It's become relentless and cruel. It's also not even funny.