This is basically what I was talking about back in the thread that started PU. Of course, I was mostly just trolling Lirva at the time...

In some sense. But this forum has never been "unchained" in any absolute meaning of the word anyway. A true "unchained" forum would involve no rules at all. Maybe even every person having full mod powers. Why should your right to delete other people's posts be chained?

I'd argue that the forum we're talking about would be less chained than Politics Alpha. Wouldn't know for sure until it was actually tried.

Maybe if you didn't pull down your pants and crap up threads with your nonsense you wouldn't be mocked or have people wishing for you to go the **** away.

Of course, you are not a very bright person, so I can see where you might have missed social cues.

In the market place of ideas, this is crystal pepsi.

You think people fling poo now? Wait until the mass edit wars (a la wikipedia) start up!

I'm not advocating for full unchained. Except maybe for some short-term lols.

I know you think I'm just being obnoxious, but shutting the **** up is fantastic advice here. If you guys had just let the BruceZ thing die down quietly, he would still be a mod and we would have stopped caring weeks ago. That **** was just a garden variety tantrum from a racist moron.

Instead, you guys have to keep inventing preposterous rationalizations for why it's not racist to call Mexican cockroaches who play circus music. You guys are going to keep picking at this for months if not years.

first, I would move trolly's post to any other thread than this because SO HELP ME GOD IF THAT STUPID BRUCE THING CROPS UP ITT I'M GONNA EDIT EVERY GODDAMN POST IN THIS PLACE

Second, one could implement a tier point system. You start off with 5 points in a thread, which allows you 2 posts per day in that thread. If you get down to 0 by enough people thumbs down-ing your posts, you get 1 post per day. If you get lots of thumbs up, you get more posts per day.

Double edged sword - while it rewards posters for being funny or making thought-provoking posts, it tends to be the case that those who post the most make the least funny or least thought-provoking posts. (see: ikes)

This would allow some mob rule, but not silence minority opinions.

Again, if you believe all ideas should be equally discussed and no ideas are inherently better than others, this is a terrible idea.

I have an idea that nobody will agree to, but would make we want to keep this place open.

Everyone who posts must disclose their name address and phone number. I would be willing to do that. Anyone else? It's a serious proposal if there are enough takers.

And it's not as crazy as it seems. My identity has been out there for years, and despite making some people angry over bans or whatnot, nobody has ever harassed me. No prank phone calls, no drive by shootings. The worst thing that happened was that a literal piece of feces (likely human) was mailed to the office via priority mail.

This idea has threatened to shut down larger organizations than two plus two, but hey, it's your income source not mine.

I don't believe this.

Which part? People knowing the identity of owners and managers? In our case that information has always been available via public records. If you mean posters willingly being themselves, i'd be curious to see examples where this went wrong.

This subforum just needs a couple simple fixes...

1) Content should focus on politics. Of course low or no content threads can exist.
2) Certain posters should have their gimmick licenses revoked.
3) People should moderate their own content and if they cannot do so maybe put on some kinda trial.

facebook, blizzard, google+

could probably find more but those ones are off the top of my head

It's a good idea.

I wouldn't do it because there's too many perspective clients and employers that I don't want to see my political opinions. I'm quite open with my opinions on most things but that's because in person I can talk about them on my own terms and directly answer/address a person's concerns.

The problem with having my opinions publicly posted here is that I lose all control of when people see this stuff and how they interpret what I've said.

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Keep in mind, i didn't say we should it down. I said i didn't care anymore and then jj said he wanted to shut it down so then wookie said go ahead.

If jj changes his mind, then we'll do what he wants.

This thread is so meta it's... Something that's really meta.

Everyone's proposed solution for PU says enough about their political preferences that we don't even need PU.

Thinking about it more, there is a lot of value to this forum. I'm fine with keeping it open and continuing to mod it with the understanding that I might try some different things to address the "cesspool of ****" posters in some sort of community based, non-personal-biased way.

Keep ignoring all the information and different perspectives available and keep blaming "the otherside" because your side's games are solved.

Really up to you and anyone else to avoid being reminded about it. If you choose to support targeting people using racially objectionable or bigoted labels supported by incomplete opinions, that it is easy to simply discredit for what it is.

unpossible

because the swissmisses and sputniks and mark69696969s of the world think your non-sexist points of view are terrible and cesspooly

I actually believe that if its left to the community to define what "cesspool of ****" means we'll end up with a definition that is close enough to mine that I'll be fine with it.

Edit: For Chez! All posts in this thread are just my opinion/best guess of what would happen. I could be wrong!

does this mean ikes is our first banishment?



but seriously, doesn't that just put us back into the situation of the majority silencing minority opinions?

lol, I knew Matt was just ****ing with us. Ain't no stopping UNCHAINED!

My goal isn't to allow all opinions to be voiced. I think thats a silly goal for a forum like this.

My goal is to allow *some* minority opinions to be voiced.

My best guess is that the content I find objectionable and inappropriate for this forum is the subset that would be silenced in any community based system.

Edit: Re: Ikes - I don't think a simple majority vote is a way to meet my goal above.