As for your question, do you mean about careers where women are favoured over men? The data by career was shown. And aside from cosmetic jobs, cleaning jobs, and something else I don't remember - men had the advantage.

Yah, I didn't really give an answer but asked you a question.

Off the top of my head, the entertainment industry, media/news, teaching, porn, models, clothing design and many fields that highly value an artistic trait, favour women over men in many cases.

Does society value them as much as surgeons, doctors and engineers?
I guess not but in the great scheme of things, who knows what profession is changing more lives and is actually more valuable to society in creating a healthier society across the board.

Why are women not progressing in the careers that pay the top dollars?
Maybe they rather use the energy needed to become a top paying surgeon, doctor or engineer to have a better, healthier lifestyle with friends and family like society tells them is more valuable when growing up. So they spend less energy in careers, still staying acceptable in work output and use the remaining energy on what matters in life.

The study is stupid is my answer.

How is that study stupid? It's literally removing every single factor but gender and showing how women are disadvantaged. What's stupid or unfair about it?

As for the rest of your post nobody gives a **** about your random hot takes about gender discrimination. Go get some actual data. You know, like the link posted earlier comparing salaries in specific fields where men were consistently paid more than women across almost all fields. Even a couple you listed above where you thought women held the advantage.

Edit: Not to mention all of your ill informed hot takes are based on things that can be explained. Go educate yourself and realize that the worst discrimination is the unexplained portion that controls for career choice and experience.

Women != Men

So the study is stupid because the actual data, is useless for finding a solution and just states the obvious that everyone already knows.
It also doesn't prove anything, related to the thread if people want to make it equal across all the fields in this world.

What type of advantage, do you believe I think that women hold?

Wait. So everybody knows that women face discrimination purely based on gender and no other factors?

I'm not sure you know how to read. Maybe that's why you limit yourself to random hot takes.

Hmm, I'm not sure if you understand my approach, to a topic that has many variables which create the inequality that people want to get rid of.

I don't believe its based on gender but the culture, psychological factors and lifestyle that women have claimed higher priority than what men do based on their own listed factors in my posts.

Typically women have a healthier lifestyle than men is what I truly believe.

Also you consider them hot takes and I do not, making that clear now.

I'm not sure if English is your first language. If not, I'll try not to dismiss you as stupid and assume it's just a communication thing.

The question of this thread is about discrimination of women. Would you agree that if a women with the exact same background and qualifications as a man gets offered a lower salary - then that is a form of discrimination?

See my first post in this thread, page 4 and you're cute for pointing out that I am not trying my very best, to make the best possible reading experience for someone that doesn't spend much time on replying or adding anything to my thoughts, other than yours.

I don't see how your first post answers the question.

You responded to my posting of that study. If you don't want to talk about it - even so far as even clarifying if you think it shows discrimination or not - then ok, but I don't care about your random un-cited hot takes. So I guess we're done.

Yah, I don't feel the need to communicate with someone, that can't see how it answers the question.

Good night.

Thread is now redundant, there is a thread moved from nvg with people arguing that women and blacks aren't disadvantaged at all.

Have fun!

Lol Rasta. You are just not smart.

It's funny that that's what you got out of that.

Anyway, have you posted a single actual source? Have you explained how your economic beliefs reconcile with racial discrimination? Of course not. You're still just a bitter dude, living in his parents basement, blaming women for all his failures in life.

No you silly goose!

How many times do I have to repeat this? You are the one trying to prove something! You have to provide the evidence for it, not call upon me to disprove your baseless assertions!



That's the beauty of me.

Incidentally, I've been with my girlfriend since February or so, have plenty of friends who I love and respect, and things are going great. I've also been accepted on a graduate scheme with a prominent business media company since August so personally, things are going quite well.

I do still live at home to save money though (and because London house prices are so expensive that there's just no shame in it whatsoever these days).

Having said all that, there are times when I feel like my interests would be better served on here by pretending to be a stereotypical virgin-nerd-hybrid just to tease out as many ad-hominem attacks that I can.

Like I say, I'm on here to find out if there are good arguments against my position.

Intelligent people with good arguments that prove what they're trying to, never, never have to resort to ad-hominems. When I see people on here doing so, I can be confident that no evidence-based argument is available to them.

I provided evidence. Multiple times.

I even asked your opinion on it. But you won't seem to address it.

JJ may i ask if you believe in the communist model? All labour should be paid the same?

There are 3 options here. Either you believe in communism, you dont understand that this study compares apples and oranges or you are trying to push an agenda with the help of an article that feels good but really doesnt say anything about what it is trying to push.

Did you read the whole thing or where you too busy looking up how to spell "communist?"

I have read the whole thing.

Have you read it and if you have please explain to me what they are comparing when coming up with the conclusion that women make less than men.

What does this mean to you?

Maybe Sputnik is confused because the studies linked were performed in the last decade.

Sputnik. Let's even keep this really simple.

What are your thoughts on the resume study? It seems like you can't control for every variable better than they did.

These studies are too broad, there is no reason to group companies/positions together.

The stats need to be grouped BY company. Then you need to find a male and a female with the same position held at the same time, and list their salary. Control for relevant variables.

So until we can get every gun off the street we can't make any gun control laws? LMAO

thats been done. as i said, about 6-7k difference in men's favor

Or we could pick a generic way to represent a persons professional capabilities. Then we could use that way to generate two identical people differing only in their gender. And then we could compare the responses we get.

Hey! Someone did this!