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06-27-2014 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Proph

Dissecting a piece line-by-line like that just shows you're searching for a flaw, instead of honestly trying to comprehend.
What? Holy moly. The entire piece was littered with flaws. If you have a problem with people outlining all their problems with a page long essay then I can't help you.
06-27-2014 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kurto
Regarding the book part, you realize that I was referencing real conservative best sellers, right? I think if you looked at the NYTimes best seller lists over the last 2 decades or so you're going to find a lot of big hits like the ones I was referencing and a much smaller liberal corollary. But the bigger point is that the liberals on this forum aren't the ones complaining like proph and cerveza about the other side calling them names while pretending their party is innocent.

For liberals to be as bad as cerveza we'd have to have fly complaining that conservatives call others names instead of taking the high road like he does.
Hillery has a new book out. And I hear that Joe Biden pulled in $201 in royalties on his book last year. But it would make for interesting speculation as to why conservative books do better than liberal ones.
Conservatives are older and like the media better? Conservatives have more money? Liberals can't read? Half of the pages in a liberal book are blank, the computer used to write it crashed?

Look, the story is an erector set, flop everything and you have the same story pointed to a different audience. The far left and the far right both do it, and there is no middle ground to it anymore. I saw a lot of complaining about the Republicans shutting down the government over money, yet Harry still hasn't presented the 2009 budget. Or 2010,11,12,13,14 either.

It has been reported that a freshman senator (D) inquired if all the senate does is vote on presidential nominees. Harry won't bring anything done by the house up for a vote, then blames the Republicans for keeping anything from getting done.
06-27-2014 , 06:57 PM
Conservative PACs bulk order books by their authors because movement conservativism is straight up a scam. Then they turn around and give them away with donations, which they use to bulk order the NEXT book.

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I saw a lot of complaining about the Republicans shutting down the government over money, yet Harry still hasn't presented the 2009 budget. Or 2010,11,12,13,14 either.
What on Earth does this even mean? The GOP shut the government down over Obamacare, not "money".


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It has been reported that a freshman senator (D) inquired if all the senate does is vote on presidential nominees.
LOL when you were phrasing that "it has been reported" and then went with the anonymity thing(again!), you knew you were full of ****. So why did you write it? Like some freshman D Senator is angry that Harry Reid isn't bringing Obamacare Repeal #41 up for a floor vote? It'd just get voted down.

This is just a tremendous spin job. This bumpkin thinks he's like, some ****ing informed voter? Goddamn.


http://thehill.com/policy/energy-env...te-for-a-price

You probably didn't hear about that, huh?

Oh, yeah, the Senate also passed a bipartisan immigration reform bill last year, but your kind hates Mexicans too much for the House to even bring it to the floor(it would PASS, unlike all the **** the House sends the Senate). LOL but it's unfair of me to play the race card! How uncouth!

Last edited by FlyWf; 06-27-2014 at 07:05 PM.
06-27-2014 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by LASJayhawk
Are we causing runaway global warming? Beats me. The models are inaccurate so I just don't know. But I do know a lot of people and companies are making billions selling carbon credits. Nobody on either side wants to talk about that.
Though not nearly as many billions being made harvesting more and more disgusting grades of fossil fuels. Nobody wants to talk about that either, I guess. Certainly not on your side.

It is interesting, however, watching you guys go on tilt regarding other people's money. I think I heard that somewhere else in this thread. I guess it's ok to worry about other people's money if the cause is right (wing).
06-27-2014 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf

LOL when you were phrasing that "it has been reported" and then went with the anonymity thing(again!), you knew you were full of ****. So why did you write it? Like some freshman D Senator is angry that Harry Reid isn't bringing Obamacare Repeal #41 up for a floor vote? It'd just get voted down.
Cite:

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On the floor a few weeks ago, one of the group’s members, Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey, buttonholed West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin to express frustration that the Senate was casting yet another vote to confirm a presidential nominee — not on legislation. According to people familiar with the exchange, Booker asked: Is that all the Senate does?
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/0...#ixzz35sqhBygN

Fly, why don't you go out and play learn "how to use google"
06-27-2014 , 07:08 PM
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A great example of hypocrisy: When a conservative discriminates against a person based on race - it is called Racism. When a liberal discriminates against a person based on race - it is called Affirmative Action.
It's really hard to want to do anything but laugh at you guys when you put forth arguments like this that demonstrate a complete misunderstanding of what you're talking about (and are clearly just regurgitations of lies you heard from smarter people who knew when were lying when they fed them to you).

You think you're saying stuff with all your words, but they all just read "I'm pretty stupid" and you can't do much with that beyond a big ole' "Ayuuuup"
06-27-2014 , 07:10 PM
Why didn't you use his name the first time, Jethro? Is it because once you wrote it out it's pretty obvious that Cory Freaking Booker is not complaining about Harry Reid's refusal to bring the Ryan Budget up for a Senate vote? Yeah. FFS read the rest of the article you quoted, what the **** is the coherent objection you're making to HARRY REID's leadership there?

Or did little Jayhawk get that Kansas education, that focused more about how evolution was a lie instead of how a bill becomes a law?
06-27-2014 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggsCasey
Though not nearly as many billions being made harvesting more and more disgusting grades of fossil fuels. Nobody wants to talk about that either, I guess. Certainly not on your side.
See you have to throw a modifier in there indicating you don't want to talk about it. You just want to assign blame on the Republicans.

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It is interesting, however, watching you guys go on tilt regarding other people's money. I think I heard that somewhere else in this thread. I guess it's ok to worry about other people's money if the cause is right (wing).

I have no earthly idea of the point you are trying to make. Could you expand on this or cite examples so I can understand?
06-27-2014 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Who the **** unbanned proph?
The honorable Mr. Sklansky.
06-27-2014 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Why didn't you use his name the first time, Jethro? Is it because once you wrote it out it's pretty obvious that Cory Freaking Booker is not complaining about Harry Reid's refusal to bring the Ryan Budget up for a Senate vote? Yeah. FFS read the rest of the article you quoted, what the **** is the coherent objection you're making to HARRY REID's leadership there?

Or did little Jayhawk get that Kansas education, that focused more about how evolution was a lie instead of how a bill becomes a law?
Fly where did I say anything about the Ryan budget? Now in 2012 the republicans forced Obama's budget to get voted on.

President Obama’s budget suffered a second embarrassing defeat Wednesday, when senators voted 99-0 to reject it.

Coupled with the House’s rejection in March, 414-0, that means Mr. Obama’s budget has failed to win a single vote in support this year.


Maybe that's why Harry won't bring them up?
06-27-2014 , 07:22 PM
Being a liberal is a huge waste of time and effort.

But op voted for Bush so this thread is stupid.
06-27-2014 , 07:24 PM
lol

LASJ, why do you think Democrats voted against it?
06-27-2014 , 07:25 PM
The article is also working with a ****tardedly idiotic definition of "white privledge".

Read the ****ing Coates respirations piece, not because you are about reparations, but because it's a fantastic summary of all the ways we've put black people behind the 8 ball. White Privilege isn't not having to work hard, it's that the outcomes from your hard work are way different when you've got more than two centuries worth of a head start.

All bull**** like that piece is trying to do is wind stupid people up and make them feel marginalized and scared. It paints liberals as big meanies who are going to point and call you dumb, because the author knows damn well that the only people picking up what they're laying down ARE dumb and are so dumb they will be insulting by those liberals with which they interact. You're being used as pawns by people who profit from an outraged and confused base.
06-27-2014 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Proph
If you want to shorten it, maybe I'll read more. It seems you keep saying the same thing repeatedly, though. The main controversies I've heard regarding "white privilege" occurred on college campuses. Maybe that's why you've never heard of it?

Basically, the author is irritated that liberals demand things with other people's money, yet claim they are compassionate. If you haven't seen the repeated demonization attempts against Republicans on some of the major news networks when they disagree with Democrats on funding, you must be insulated over at Fox News.

Dissecting a piece line-by-line like that just shows you're searching for a flaw, instead of honestly trying to comprehend.
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Originally Posted by TheDuker
And here's the result of a good-faith effort to try and engage.

There's basically 3 ways to respond to OP's level of nonsense, and 3 predictable responses, all of which have now played out in this thread:

1. Ignore. Response: Liberals are too cowardly to engage on the merits of our arguments! They must know we speak truth! We win!
Speaking of ignoring...

Why read an entire piece built on false axioms?
06-27-2014 , 07:28 PM
Well aren't you just a random series of adorable misleading little factoids?

Like seriously, what is the coherent objection you have to "Harry"? What is he not doing that he should be?

(look at this ****ing guy, on a first name basis with Harry Reid! Hey, hayseed, we laugh at your ****ing kids. Never forget that)
06-27-2014 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Proph
Speaking of ignoring...

Why read an entire piece built on false axioms?
Actually, he kinda crushed you with his post. And you're officially a confirmed troll.
06-27-2014 , 07:30 PM
The stuff LAS didn't post:

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Led by Sen. Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota, a small but vocal group of mostly younger Democratic senators are meeting secretly and privately lobbying Reid to help ease the gridlock. While they blame Republicans for the bottleneck, they are pressing Reid to be more willing to entertain a freewheeling process, including more votes on amendments.
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“Sen. Reid is pleased senators are engaged on this effort, but step one is finding a group of Republicans willing to work with us and so far that has not happened,” Jentleson said. “At the end of the day, the Senate has to overcome the McConnell rule of 60 votes for most major legislation, and neither these discussions nor any other efforts have yet convinced enough Republicans to join with us to clear that 60-vote hurdle.”

Other Democrats privately say that more votes aren’t worth the risk, given that Republicans would likely block the underlying bills anyway and prevent them from becoming law. So Democrats would be forced to cast bad votes — such as on amendments reaffirming their support for Obamacare — and have no legislative accomplishments to show for them.
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The pattern in the Senate has gone something like this. Democrats vote to break a GOP filibuster to bring legislation up for debate. Republicans demand a series of votes on amendments. Democrats say the demands are unreasonable. Republicans then block the bill from getting a final vote.
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Republicans are aggressively pushing for amendments to bolster their November hopes, including measures to protect McConnell’s home-state coal industry, plans to gut Obamacare and efforts to impose new sanctions on Iran. The amendment snafu helped stymie two appropriations bills last week, a major setback in efforts to put the budget process back on track.
06-27-2014 , 07:33 PM
Short answer: We've got gridlock because Republicans continue to fight against an ostensibly Republican (and looking to be successful) health care plan because a Black Dude propose it. The government got shut down for the same reason.

It's not just liberals that are smarter than these guys, it's everybody.
06-27-2014 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
The stuff LAS didn't post:
You understand I was addressing flies whining about a lack of cite,
but

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Led by Sen. Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota, a small but vocal group of mostly younger Democratic senators are meeting secretly and privately lobbying Reid to help ease the gridlock. While they blame Republicans for the bottleneck, they are pressing Reid to be more willing to entertain a freewheeling process, including more votes on amendments.
Cliffs: we blame republicans for Harry being a hard ass.
06-27-2014 , 07:41 PM
ITT people actively demonstrate their inability to read and complain when their intelligence is insulted.

The republicans are inserting absolutely poison bills into bills that mean they will NEVER pass. They're refusing to play ball. Totally Reid's fault. Gotcha.
06-27-2014 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
Short answer: We've got gridlock because Republicans continue to fight against an ostensibly Republican (and looking to be successful) health care plan because a Black Dude propose it. The government got shut down for the same reason.

It's not just liberals that are smarter than these guys, it's everybody.
You understand they fought against the government intrusion in health care when Clinton wanted it too? I guess he was "a Black Dude" too.
06-27-2014 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
ITT people actively demonstrate their inability to read and complain when their intelligence is insulted.
Please don't be so hard on yourself.

BTW: Are you trying to convince us the OP's story he linked it correct?
06-27-2014 , 07:48 PM
*I* think know I'm smarter than *you*. (because of like reading- like the part where you think you can argue the Republicans are opposed to "government intrusion"). Trying to generalize that to all liberals and conservatives would be well... dumb.
06-27-2014 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Proph
Why read start a thread about an entire piece built on false axioms?
FYP
06-27-2014 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Proph
However, I try to stay out of it when they do, because often liberals are simply getting pushback from their silly, indoctrinated, "government can fix anything" beliefs.
LMFAO, you can't go a dozen posts without calling people who don't buy into your bull**** views "indoctrinated" or imply that they are ******ed in some way. Are you just too stupid to understand that you are insulting people when you say that?

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