I've muted, or changed the channel, for the anthem for years. Bring the hate.

It's a tired old song about the "glory" of war and slavery, written by a slave-owning anti-abolitionist, and sung by one trendy pop star after another trying to out-gliss the one from the night before, taking up 4 awkward minutes to do a 90-second piece.

Besides, after this guy's rendition in 1982, they should have just declared the contest over and played his recording ... And even then, only before important games/events.

I'd stand if they played this.

what are the odds of being killed by a drunk driver?

What are the odds of getting a beat down or being shot by a cop if you commit crimes over and over?

Do you see how absurd your example is?

Except we're not talking about just ' omitting crimes over and over'. You listed a whole bunch of things including giving attitude to a cop or 'acting suspicious'.

I'm going to guess the odds of dying for people doing these things are roughly the same as dying from a. Drunk driver.

Although, It doesn't change the point anyway. Your statement still applies to the drunk driving example. Or going to the beach and getting eaten by a shark. It's just a dumb statement.

Do you see that a large chunk of the problem is that there are too many cases where "black man in a hoodie" is enough to be considered "suspicious"?

The freedom to sit or stand, spit or salute during the national anthem, to express your approval or disapproval of this country is such a core US principle, if the NFL punished Kaep they would be acting less patriotic than he is. Their refusal to do anything to stop him makes me want to stand up and sing:

White man in a hoodie is suspicious also.

A hoodie, pulled up to conceal your face, is suspicious by it's very nature. If I walked around with a ski mask on I can expect to be approached by law enforcement, even if they can obviously tell I'm Asian (eyes ftw), because it appears that I'm trying to hide my face.

Sorry dude, but if you are working the counter at 7-11 and 3 white guys walk in with hoodies covering their faces you are going to have a "wtf" moment. If you have 3 black dudes walk in wearing suits, I doubt you would have that same reaction.

Dress and appearance mean something. If you wear jogging pants and a tank top to a wedding you should expect to be treated in a different manner than if you wore something more appropriate. Hoodies give off a specific vibe, just as a short skirt with your ass cheeks hanging out. It doesn't mean you are a criminal and it doesn't mean you are a whore, but there is baggage that comes along with dressing like that, and there is a reason why.

lol

national average is about 50k which i would think is pulled up by rich suburbs. i think the officers in my urban area make 40k.

Requiring a four year degree in policing, instead of two, and some minors in some psychology would get rid of some of the bad candidates.

LMFAO. The woman's soccer league running scared. Also telling, the US Soccer Federation, M.Rapinoe's employer that she and some other players are suing for wage discrimination, AFAIK hasn't made any statement regarding this workplace protest at all.

In Russia, Kaepernick would be given a long prison sentence. Trump's hero, Putin, might have even had his ass whacked to set an example. He'd have definitely made it mandatory to burn his jerseys. Anyone seen still wearing his jersey would go to prison.

I wonder how many of the jersey-burners in the US would prefer the Russian way of doing things.

Correction, M.Rapinoe's team made a statement...

The next Reign home match is Sunday @7pm pdt.

Well, it's about two hours until the anthem before the NFL's opening game. Who knows if any Broncos or Panthers are going to take the knee?

In other Kaepernick Protest news, three college volleyballers took the knee last night in WV, the Santa Clara police have called off their 49er boycott, there are rumors of the Seahawks having a whole team 'surprise' on Sunday, and everyone's Fortunate One Senator's Son, Roger Goodell, whined that he doesn't like it.

ETA: Siding with Kaepernick, 49ers pledge $1 million to fight racial injustice.

After all this time that's all you got? I mean, Matt clipped your balls off, LG is banned, and Master3004 has me on ignore.

You should come back and help Master, Kerowo. He is lost without you. It's almost tearful.

There is also a slight possibility I collect 230 off Master3004 and 1,000 off LG. But, I won't dance on anyone's grave yet.

"lol", indeed, Kerowo.

I was about to write a strongly worded retort here but first I will ask: why are you not a fan of this kind of protest?

I don't think so. The players have a union. There is an applicable rule which states (unlike the NBA which does mandate players stand) that the NFL suggests players stand. If they negotiated that then I am thinking they can't change it. I would guess however that this is the last season you will see a player sitting for the anthem as that will be renegotiated.

What would Obama's reaction be to white players joining Kaepernick? I'm thinking he would hop to.

I don't want to answer for him but in general there are many different ways he can protest without sending a signal that he doesn't care for a patriotic symbol of his country.

LeBron made the same point he did, yet in an entirely different manner. I think Kaepernick could have done the same.

I almost grunched, read to check if Rauf had been mentioned.

Goddamn he could shoot that ball. Like the beta test version of Steph Curry.

http://theundefeated.com/features/ab...tional-anthem/

The NFL regular season is underway, as the Broncos beat the Panthers 21-20 in a thrilling game. For those keeping score, the Brandon Marshall on the Broncos (not the one on the Jets), became the 4th NFL player to take a knee. Sunday can't come soon enough...

Well, LOL @me for questioning C.Kaepernick's tactics. The head of the NCAA just compared him to Rosa Parks. To elaborate, I think it's pretty clear now that Kaepernick hasn't had tactics... that he's just winging it as he goes. Except for the pig socks misstep, his gut instincts have succeeded in "starting the conversation" beyond imagination. He could certainly declare victory today and give up as a hero.

According to PFT: "the Collective Bargaining Agreement is silent on the subject."

Rosa Parks ? Lol. That comparison is ridiculous.

If protests were completely acceptable would they be protests?

Coerced patriotism is always disgusting. No one opposed to him seems to really care about what's in the guys heart. They just want him to obey. That's disgusting. If Kaepernick does nothing but draw out the nature of the slime who support the status quo then he has done something worthtwhile.

All protests are not the same, some are viewed as much more distasteful than others. While I don't care much about people protesting seeing people burn a flag makes me angry. I'm not sure why that in particular makes me angry, but it does. Kaep kneeling during the anthem doesn't make me angry but I can see why it may make others so.

I'll be sure to burn a flag just for you.