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12-30-2016 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Not at all. Michael's post was a good one
Oh Ok. So you laud a post as a "good post", then when mods turn up because (presumably) people have complained about the rampant racism, and it's suddenly "not sourced" .

But Toothsayer still thinks it's a good post.

You're on a mission to spread hatred. You don't even have the courage of your convictions to say and stand by what you actually think. You were banned from P for being an obnoxious bigot and you're so determined not to be banned from PU that it leads to nonsense like this. You're a weasel and you have my sympathy.

Last edited by jalfrezi; 12-30-2016 at 12:44 PM.
12-30-2016 , 12:58 PM
Hey jalfrezi, you know that swedish politician Björn Söder you were using to associate me with racists in the party I will be voting for.
Turns out the same antisemitism accusation that was brought against him is now brought up against our foreign minister Margot Wallström. After this bombshell our state media went as far as to change the headline of the Söder article -by removing the term antisemite- after the same organization called out the Social democrat Wallström.

http://www.thelocal.se/20161228/swed...el-accusations

There is nothing racist in the SD party agenda. They are a milder variant of UKIP. Sweden does indeed have a fringe racist rightwing, but by numbers and impact they pale in comparison to the leftwing racists who have gone as far as having organizing racialised discussion groups and real life events, all with state sponsored money.

Last edited by Marn; 12-30-2016 at 01:07 PM.
12-30-2016 , 01:09 PM
@Marn; Pointing out that some left wingers are also anti-Semitic doesn't validate the far right that you support.
12-30-2016 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
@Marn; Pointing out that some left wingers are also anti-Semitic doesn't validate the far right that you support.
The difference is that when the same source was criticizing a Swedish democrat it was made a big deal by our MSM while other politicians were sitting on their high horse and now it is all of a sudden not so bad, she is in the protected class after all.

One party is demonized by the establishment, the other isn't, where are the concrete differences? It is this kind of attitude that will ensure that SD have a good shot of becoming the largest party in our next election.
12-30-2016 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
@Marn; Pointing out that some left wingers are also anti-Semitic doesn't validate the far right that you support.
btw, can you name a single policy of theirs which is far right?
12-30-2016 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
I have read the Koran, in full. It reads like poetry. It's a beautiful, seductive book...it calls out to the male heart with its promises of power and brotherhood and certainty.

It's also bat**** insane, like many of the people who follow it. And deeply misogynist. A religion that reveres the exploits of a grandiose, poet-killing, headlopping, pedophile polygamist 7th century war criminal from a woman-oppressing slave culture doesn't exactly make for peace, progress or equality.
But being outraged at the Muslims who want to leave their (often despotic) country of origin does.
12-30-2016 , 02:04 PM
A good article on Swedish reaction to rape culture.

Swedish MSM claimed that 'it was a mixed group'. Later on from police reports it was confirmed that all suspects but a few were asylum seekers, those who weren't needed interpreters.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/12...cord-shameful/

A CNN reporter was subjected to this in Egypt during the uprising, a shocking culture crash which has made its way to Europe now.
12-30-2016 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Not at all. Michael's post was a good one and I learned something from it. I didn't know, for example, about the incredible rates of first cousin marriage in many of these communities, that has gone on for generations.
I'm actually shocked you didn't know this.

If I was given the option to meet trump or toothsayer. I would have picked toothsayer all day. Now it would be a coin flip because you didn't know this.

You are like an encyclopedia of amazing info and you didn't know that Muslims had cornered the market on impregnanting their cousins for hundreds of years?

Don't worry I still love you but the fact that you of all people didn't know this means the fate of western civilization is truly ****ed.
12-30-2016 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
And here we have it, the authentic voice of alt-right that ToothSayer not only condones, but actively praises...then does a swift volte face when the mods show interest.
I'm drinking at happy hour right now and I have my Trump/Pence 2016 make America great again hoodie on.

I make a point to go to the bathroom and take a piss at the first inkling that I have to take a Piss just so I can irritate people like you seeing me wear this sweater.

And in case I get jumped by a couple dudes I have one of those neck gouger tactical knives in my pocket that I bought from some inbred redneck at some knife shop At at a loves community truck stop in northeastern Arizona.
12-30-2016 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Oh Ok. So you laud a post as a "good post", then when mods turn up because (presumably) people have complained about the rampant racism, and it's suddenly "not sourced" .

But Toothsayer still thinks it's a good post.
You're trying so hard to slime me that you're reduced to this kind of drivel. I objected to one paragraph of the post. The rest were good. This isn't hard unless you're bending over backwards to try to make something stick. It's hilarious, frankly.

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You're on a mission to spread hatred. You don't even have the courage of your convictions to say and stand by what you actually think.
I've said exactly what I think, had dozens of posts reported no doubt, been called everything under the sun, had Castro-loving cucks like you try so hard to make something stick, and nothing has changed. There's no mission except calling out bigotry where I see it. Islam, and the left. That you defend both Castro and Islam is not surprising; once a totalitarian lover, always a totalitarian lover. And they're both totalitarian. It's just the way some rather vile people are cut, to like such things. Fortunately, the ones who aren't are smarter and better armed.
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You were banned from P for being an obnoxious bigot and you're so determined not to be banned from PU that it leads to nonsense like this. You're a weasel and you have my sympathy.
An old account was banned from P because Wookie was drunk and he didn't like me disagreeing with him. I've posted in there heaps since in this account with no sanctions. I could gotten it overturned (I was a highly rgegarded poster in BFI) but why bother? I just made a new account a few months later when I felt like posting again. This place doesn't mean much to me, but it's an excellent study of stupid people, which I find endlessly fascinating. The religiosity, reality denial and reactionary bigotry of the left is as fascinating to me as evangelicals Christians who deny evolution; it's so alien that I'm curious to understand how a mind can get so warped. Any insights to share?

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12-30-2016 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael1999
I'm actually shocked you didn't know this.

If I was given the option to meet trump or toothsayer. I would have picked toothsayer all day. Now it would be a coin flip because you didn't know this.

You are like an encyclopedia of amazing info and you didn't know that Muslims had cornered the market on impregnanting their cousins for hundreds of years?

Don't worry I still love you but the fact that you of all people didn't know this means the fate of western civilization is truly ****ed.
Honestly I mostly read polite things and talk to polite people. No one talks about the huge amount of inbreeding among Muslims. I didn't know about the black absentee father rate either, which of course explains much black household underperformance financially and otherwise, and a great deal of black crime. Been a learning experience.

The PC left is even more wrong than I thought they were. I appreciate the insights.
12-30-2016 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
Honestly I mostly read polite things and talk to polite people. No one talks about the huge amount of inbreeding among Muslims. I didn't know about the black absentee father rate either, which of course explains much black household underperformance financially and otherwise, and a great deal of black crime. Been a learning experience.

The PC left is even more wrong than I thought they were. I appreciate the insights.
A/S/L?

I'm enthralled.
12-30-2016 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
I just made a new account a few months later when I felt like posting again. This place doesn't mean much to me
Sure. You're addicted to posting poisonous views. Seek therapy.

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12-30-2016 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Sure. You're addicted to posting poisonous views. Seek therapy.
That's all you have? You can't beat me on the facts, so you desperately try to smear however you can. Dictators, who you love (e.g. Castro), had the same tactics against their opponents.

Most of my posting history hasn't been spent in politics. I come here for BFI for trading discussion, and just strayed over this way for Trump. You on the other hand are the typical vile left wing misanthrope, who love bigoted misogynist ideologies like Islam and brutal dictators like Castro, and hates free thought and non-confirming opinions.
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Only the gullible and stupid here are taken in by your trashy teenage takes on complex issues clearly beyond your reasoning level.
You'd be amazed at the number of PMs I get from lurkers. I post actual facts and discussion. Yet here you are trying to tard up a thread that's inconvenient for your political views. You're a zero content troll.
12-30-2016 , 10:02 PM
Only the gullible and stupid here are taken in by your trashy teenage takes on complex issues clearly beyond your reasoning level. Grow up.
12-30-2016 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Only the gullible and stupid here are taken in by your trashy teenage takes on complex issues clearly beyond your reasoning level. Grow up.
And yet here you are in a thread about Muslims trying to throw mud however you can on someone who posts facts about them.

Real people talk about facts and issues. Trashy teenage-minded, dictator loving losers (who are actually 50 and jaded), do nothing but troll in an attempt to take attention away from those facts and issues.
12-30-2016 , 10:17 PM
You post deliberately incendiary insults at billions of people, calling them supporters of pedophilia. Honestly, please grow up or at least travel a little and see what the world outside of your bubble is really like.
12-30-2016 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
You post deliberately incendiary insults at billions of people, calling them supporters of pedophilia
The man they revere and is so holy you can't draw him (and many Muslims will kill for doing just that), married and ****ed a 9 year old:
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Aisha's age at the time she was married to Muhammad has been of interest since the earliest days of Islam, and references to her age by early historians are frequent.[11] According to Sunni scriptural Hadith sources, Aisha was six or seven years old when she was married to Muhammad with the marriage not being consummated until she had reached puberty at the age of nine or ten years old
Perhaps that's not a pedophile to you. And perhaps you're not creeped out by this:
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They bathed in the same water and he prayed while she lay stretched out in front of him.[42]
There are also various traditions that reveal the mutual affection between Muhammad and Aisha. He would often just sit and watch her and her friends play with dolls, and on occasion he would even join them.
Having sex with a 9 year old followed by enjoying watch her play with her dolls? I don't know what kind of life you lead, but to me that's a pedophile.

If you'd traveled on the continent a little more, you would frequently see Muslim males in their 20s and 30s with 11-12yo white girls as their girlfriends. They target them deliberately, and it's fine to do in their culture. It's common and accepted. Muhammed did it, so it cannot be wrong.

Every culture has their pedophiles, but Islam is the only major religion where it's openly accepted. And this is as old as Islam. The socially accepted and endorsed trade in child sex slaves is a Muslim thing; nowhere else did it get that kind of acceptance. In fact, whole part of Europe were depopulated by Muslim raiders wanting child flesh to sell; hundreds of thousands were captured:
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In 1814, Swiss explorer Johann Burckhardt wrote of his travels in Egypt and Nubia, where he saw the practice of slave trading: "I frequently witnessed scenes of the most shameless indecency, which the traders, who were the principal actors, only laughed at. I may venture to state, that very few female slaves who have passed their tenth year, reach Egypt or Arabia in a state of virginity.
You think it's a coincidence that these groups are a major problem in Europe? People with the same ideology? The same prophet who ****ed a 9 year old? Who thinks it's fine to take infidels as slaves? What is it that you're slow to understand?
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. Honestly, please grow up or at least travel a little and see what the world outside of your bubble is really like.
I'm very well traveled.

And I've met plenty of idiots who get a bit of age on them and a few countries and think they have it all figured out.

Last edited by ToothSayer; 12-30-2016 at 10:43 PM.
12-30-2016 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
The man they revere and is so holy you can't draw him (and many Muslims will kill for doing just that), married and ****ed a 9 year old:


Perhaps that's not a pedophile to you. And perhaps you're not creeped out by this:
I'm not generally creeped out by events of thousands of years ago, no, because all cultures were more primitive and barbaric then.

The mistake you repeatedly make is in ascribing problematic behaviour to Muslims alone:

"Islam is the only major religion where it's openly accepted"

Would it surprise you to learn that some middle eastern Christians (for instance) marry girls aged 12, not thousands of years ago but now? Would you like to make the same condemnation of Christianity? Or would you prefer to ascribe it to culture rather than religion?

I know how you like to slip these sorts of huge and false generalisations into long posts, hoping that they will seep into the gullibles' subconscious unchallenged, and this is why you should be regarded as little more than a propagandist.
12-30-2016 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
If you'd traveled on the continent a little more, you would frequently see Muslim males in their 20s and 30s with 11-12yo white girls as their girlfriends.
I've lost count of the number of times I've been to the continent, but to keep things pertinent we were in your neck of the woods only a few months ago, drove around the South of France including Nice and its outskirts without seeing any of your fabled pedophiles displaying their trophy child girlfriends, so I think you should post some evidence at this point because you're a fundamentally untrustworthy poster.
12-30-2016 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael1999
I'm actually shocked you didn't know this.

If I was given the option to meet trump or toothsayer. I would have picked toothsayer all day. Now it would be a coin flip because you didn't know this.

You are like an encyclopedia of amazing info and you didn't know that Muslims had cornered the market on impregnanting their cousins for hundreds of years?

Don't worry I still love you but the fact that you of all people didn't know this means the fate of western civilization is truly ****ed.
So just to follow up on this...you are entirely correct. Your deleted post was on the money. Obfuscators, apologizers and liars for Islam like jalfrezi never talk about this stuff. But it's very real. And sadly it's not limited to some Pakistani cultures either.

The Muslim world is basically deeply inbred. This is a graph of the percentage of people in each country who marry their second cousins or closer:



It's something nearly entirely limited to the Muslim world if you look at that map - it covers many races and cultures, but what they all have in common is Islam (except for maybe southern India?). I guess they're following the ideals Muhammed had (as they do with many other things). Multiply that by 20+ generations...Jesus. This is horrible.
12-31-2016 , 12:33 AM
Wow, WTF. Is that for real? Where does this statistical map come from? Which data?
12-31-2016 , 12:40 AM
It's from a collaboration of Australian universities, genomics departments. It pulls together data from different studies:

http://www.consang.net/index.php/Global_prevalence

And yeah, sadly it's real.
12-31-2016 , 12:55 AM
If these numbers are real, this is more than just genetic defect consequences.

This is literally pedophilia / rape culture. Imagine during large family social gatherings, the older cousins pray on the virgin younger females, and marry them as they grow older. Men in those countries literally created a culture where they could sex young virgins in their family. Considering how much those countries value virginity.... They target the virgins in their own family.

This is disgusting just thinking about how things operate based off those alarming numbers, ranging up to 50%!!! in some countries.

Holy ****.
12-31-2016 , 01:05 AM
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2765422/

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Secular changes in the consanguinity rates have been noticed in some Arab populations. In Jordan [9], Lebanon [5], Bahrain [10], and among Palestinians [11-13], the frequency of consanguineous marriage is decreasing. Several factors may be playing a role in decreasing the consanguinity rates in Arab countries. Amongst these factors are the increasing higher female education levels, the declining fertility resulting in lower numbers of suitable relatives to marry, more mobility from rural to urban settings, and the improving economic status of families. Moreover, genetic diseases may be feared more now that infectious diseases are on the decline as causes of severe morbidity and mortality.
This is good news at least. But holy damn I didn't know how prevalent this was. Gonna dig into this research report.

      
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