Yeah, but that was racism. This is about an ideology. A genetically inferior ideology

You don't understand what cherry-picking is obviously. You also don't understand how these surveys are conducted towards getting sensational results. Does it not occur to you that these things have to be conducted with a mind towards selling the data? and "muslims quite moderate mostly harmless people" isn't a story any one will buy.

Give me half an hour and I could come up with a quite insane list of things Europeans are supposed to believe. Ten minutes for the US.

You're insane, dude.

For one, it's Pew Global with these numbers, a highly reliable polling organization.

For two, these views are literally played out in the Muslim world. In a good portion of the Middle East, you will get harassed, yelled at, spat on, assaulted if you're a woman who walks down the street without a male relative escort. Sharia law itself - the law in many Muslim countries - including stoning for adultery, and a woman's word being worth half a man's. Hundreds of millions of Muslim women are dressed in full body freedom sacks lest the sight of an ankle turn on a man.

You're an incredibly ignorant person. These results are real. They represent what the Muslim world believes. That you and others don't know this just show appalling ignorance about the world you live in.
It's not about insane things that people believe. Sikhs believe insane things too, and I haven't mentioned them once. Why? Because they're not blowing people up, murdering their daughters when they want to choose a different religion, imprisoning women by the hundreds of millions in horrible, constrained lives, and running around for the past 1400 years violently trying to set up caliphate (ISIS is the latest in a long line of similar tactics and groups).

Why are you people so quick to defend the Muslims? Why won't you say radical islamic terrorist? Do you seriously not believe this ideology is a problem?

There could be a police shooting and immediatly you rush to defend the criminal. Why is this?

People had the same problem with the left and Nazism or Stalinism 50 years ago. The very same conversations.

Some people loathe their own society and latch onto any enemy of that society, no matter how evil. It's like a teenage rebellion that somehow they never grow out of. Unfortunately many of these people have made it into academia and the media and influence children's opinions and public opinion.

Others flash their moral goodness by "standing up" for what they perceive as the downtrodden against the "powerful". Never mind that Islam is the greatest oppressor and raper of women in the history of the world, something that goes on to this very day in hundreds of millions of lives. Those details don't matter - those women are out of sight in freedom sacks, and behind doors as men's property, whereas there is a real, evil person talking about this problem right in front of them (and punching down!! the horror!!) that must be stopped and lied about and obfuscated against however possible.

That's about the depth of their intelligence and moral sophistication. GBV is just dumb though - I think he soaks up whatever his betters tell him and then parrots it as reality.

Were Nazis genetically inferior, do you know?

There's zero evidence for this given our current genetic/cognitive science, but I suspect there's probably a genetic element to the German people's low level of empathy. They're very different to the French for example. It could be culture - hard to say at this stage.

Really, so your country's history of dropping atom bombs on people, committing genocide, slavery, creating millions of pitifully deformed children in Vietnam through the use of agent orange, murdering millions in Latin America through CIA torture/terrorism programs, drone strikes, illegal invasions etc etc ad infinitum makes you some kind of morally superior nation who can dish out patronizing moral judgements that you yourselves have never followed?

You aren't just someone that swallows propaganda blindly and is every bit as sociopathic and inhuman as those in ISIS? Because to be honest I think it will take even the most radical islamists decades to catch up with your utter depravity.

In a total war, started by the other side? It was in fact the most humane option. The firebombing of Tokyo killed more than the atomic weapons.
Hah?
The Muslim world has crushed the US on the use of slavery. Especially child-rape sex slavery. Muslims depopulated large parts of Europe taking child sex slaves.
"Millions" of pitifully deformed children? You're a little unhinged, bro.

There's that millions again.
I'm not American. And yes. America has been a far greater force for good in the world than harm. It's not even close.

I've never raped a child or chopped off a head, so no.

You're a weird one. What do you think the world would look like if Islamic nations had US/Western military powers? Do you think people would be free to choose their religion? Free to have self determination? Do you think women would be free to choose what they wear, who they marry, who they have sex with?

The West is the least moral power in the whole world...apart from all the other ones.

This is one of the most desperate, backed into a corner, ridiculous post's I've read. Do you realize how many lives dropping the Bomb saved? It ended the war. Learn some history.

You think this is the only country in the world to have slavery, torture etc?

We have been the worlds police because every other country is weak and we are strong(except during the Obama administration). We have saved infinately more lives than we have taken. You don't see people getting on boats and going to other countries to find a better life and escape oppression. Nope! They come to the USA because we are the greatest country in the world(except during the Obama administration).

Stop being jealous!

USA USA USA!!!

I'm sure ISIS have their rationalizations and this is actually one of them. Their country was invaded in violation of international law. A government was put in place which began torturing and murdering the Sunni minority. They turned to ISiS as the only force that could challenge the government.

It is strange how bigots on both extremes tend to make the same arguments.

BTW...I've told you a million times, don't exagerate!

It's strange how you support terrorism!

Might want to rethink that position mongidig

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...rian-fighters/

When was Syria (where ISIS came from) invaded in violation of international law?? Obama in fact armed and provided financing for the groups that would later become ISIS, in their fight against Assad.

What kind of a dopey cuck are you?

When the Muslim world was making raids into Europe for hundreds of years to capture child sex slaves for raping, depopulating large parts of Europe in the process, was that the fault of the US too? When the Ottoman empire acted just like ISIS did as it ran across Eastern Europe, conquering and killing those who wouldn't convert to Islam, taking the children for raping as slaves, was that the fault of the US too?

You're an idiot, man. ISIS is the latest in a very long line of brutal Muslims waging Jihad to set up a caliphate, raping and beheading as they go. They have nothing to do with the US, apart from the extent to which Obama armed them against the dictator who kept their religious fundamentalism in line.
You're bat**** insane. There was no torturing and murdering of Sunnis. There was a lot of torturing and murdering of Shia BY Sunnis when Saddam had power, however.

Rethink what? Whats your point?

Since you can't communicate like an adult I'm suspending this conversation.

There was plenty of content there. I accept your concession that your claims about the source of ISIS were ridiculous, that you've learned something, and that you have nothing to say in response.

The military industrial complex is the number #1 supporter of global terror.

Translation: "I **** myself and the person I was arguing with left because of the smell so I win".

Exhibit A of a regressive leftist confronting arguments he has no answers to.

Oh please. You got your ass handed to you and you took the nearest excuse you could.

Tell me which part of this isn't factual? I mean, you have no idea about anything. You're one of a long line of idiots who think the US is the worst and the cause of most problems and that you're smart for realizing this while the "sheep" believe the propaganda.

It's you who started the namecalling. You got it back and now you run away like a child:
You did it in a roundabout, passive-aggressive way, rather than say it directly, because you're spineless.

Anyway, there's nothing to say to you. You're a total idiot.

If he withdraws the insults then I'm happy to refute his points. There is a minimum standard to intelloigent debate even on a forum like this one.

Reply to me then, or did I also hurt your feelings?

If that's your standard, then follow it. Don't start off by calling someone a bigot? You can't even keep moral consistency from one post to another.