A war mongerer is someone who endorses war and tries to precipitate war. Seems to fit the Iranian government quite well. So from reading theses forums most people would seemingly hold the view that either Iran does not have a war mongering government or believe that the Iran government will be convinced to change it's ways through continued diplomacy or perhaps some combination of both. Hey they aren't that bad, just beating their chest a little, more rhetoric than action. Those views seem completely ridiculous to me given the track record of Iran and dealing with regimes such as Iran in the past. Discuss.

How many wars has Iran started in the past 200 years?

There was the Iran-Iraq war when the USA supported Iraq invaded Iran.

Does that count?

Bolded was most fascinating thing I read in this New Yorker article about what's going on in Iran:
Hardliners can't stay in control forever.

Source

No, I don't think being invaded by a US puppet regime counts as starting a war.

What are you referring to here?

Iran does arm allies in the area, but so do all its neighbors and a lot of outsiders. The government is ugly and repressive, but there's not a one in the region who is not. They are all playing The Great Game -- contending for influence and advantage in the Middle East.

What is the case for Iran being especially aggressive or reckless? Acts and policies please, the Ahmadinejad quotes are mossy.

Iran's actions outside of Iran have mostly been indirect through Hezbollah, Assad, the Houthi, militias in Iraq.

I think better relations with Iran can and should be forthcoming, but Iran has been an integral part of Shia/Sunni conflict everywhere in the ME as well as a sponsor of terror and military supplier of Hamas - which has done far more harm to the Palestinians than good.

Never took adios as Dick Cheney's online persona

13 hours seems like plenty of time to post a single example of Iran's warmongering starting a war.

If you can't (and, to be clear, you can't) that seems like pretty lightweight warmongering to me. One of the closest example is the war in which the US is currently operating as the Revolutionary Guard's air force. That seems inconvenient to the ideas in your OP.

I count 3 wars the US unambiguously stared since 1979 to Iran's 0, and if you want to include the type of support microbet's post described to get Iran's number above 0 the US's number would likely increase tenfold.

What a surprise that adios abandoned his own thread as soon as he started to get some pushback.

OP, in addition to the "how many wars" question, here's another: do you consider the US government a warmonger?

Or Germany?

Of course, our fascists funded both sides... So that prolly counts as two in one.

lol.

It looks like that neo-con war propaganda is working. And Hilldog gets to be the one who to send our troops into battle. Ahhh.... what a ****ed time we are living in.

I think they have legit reasons to hate America.

and very good reasons to be scared of America.

"Iran's War Mongering" thread fans,

If the CIA hadn't overthrown Iran's democracy what do you think the Iranian government would be like today?

Umm... still a democracy?

The answer is at least FIVE.

The Russo-Persian Wars (early 19th century edition) involved the Persian king trying to reconquer land in Northern Iran, near Azerbaijan, even though the Russians withdrew a decade earlier.

In 1826, the Persians attacked again, to try to take land they thought was theirs.

In 1856, the Persian army attacked Herat, an outpost that had declared its independence from Persia and "Greater Iran."

In 1946, Iran attacked the newly independent Azerbaijan, feeling threatened by English and Russian influence.

In 1974, Iran sent thousands of troops into Oman.

So the answer is FIVE. That's FIVE wars that Iran has started in the last 200 years. All aggressive, all to satisfy imperial fantasies. And that number doesn't even include all the financial and military support, personnel, and training (WARMONGERING) which led to wars involving the Syrian government, Yemeni rebels, Hamas, Hezbollah, and don't forget the bombing of the Buenos Aires Jewish Community centre (and subsequent coverup), the barracks bombing in Beirut, etc.

Can you please stop repeating this lie and pretending Iran is some benign nice country that minds its own business? Or at least maybe think critically when you read things that support your biases?

I mean, seriously. If you want to argue that getting more aggressive on Iran is not in American interests, go ahead, I might even agree with you. If you want to argue that America has a similar history, go nuts and it's worth a discussion.

To pretend that Iran is some benign little state with no significant history of aggressive imperialism and is behind some of the most blatant acts this planet has ever seen, is just hilariously deluded.

I've never done this before, but now is a a good time to start

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GAMBLOOOOOOOOOOOR

good to see you've focused on the important stuff

in this thread we learn a new gamblor specific definition of aggressive imperialism. At least he stays consistent, the wiki links do not match his histrionics

Lol