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Originally Posted by Marn
Yes I have considered socio-economic factors. I have already addressed this issue replying to I3all in this thread. Anyhow such concerns do not help answer if immigration from third world countries increase violent crime, it only gives part of the answer as to why it does.
When making policy decisions on immigration the if question should be more important than the why question.
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
If instead of focussing on their nationality, you focussed on long-term criminals' social backgrounds, education and poverty levels etc you might find very little difference between immigrants and Swedes.
Don't you think this is a more effective (as well as less prejudiced) way of attacking the crime problem that you say is your major concern?
The above is an interesting discussion. I bolded part of Marn's quote.
So jalfrezi is saying the high rape rate is more effectively explained as due to demographics - age, poverty, sex, etc. I would like to see a source/cite for that assertion. (Though I'm not asking for moderation on the subject - would just like to see the support).
Specifically, it looks like in the closed thread Marn showed an average of about 8x higher rape conviction rates. Do demographics account for 4x, but the remaining 2x (cuz 8x = 4x times 2x) are accounted for by the culture of the immigrants/refugees? Or all 8x are accounted for by demographics?
Next, no one is addressing Marn's point I bolded above. Even if the problem is caused by demographics, the problem is still there, and can be solved by stopping the immigration flow, because the immigrants fit those demographics.
Alternatively, proponents of maintaining the immigration flow can refute the data itself. Are Marn's stats wrong? If so, why and how?