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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
einbert,
what would jesus say? i want a long and real answer. no tweets. jk. we know jesus don't tweet.
seriously. you're a passionate, interesting person and i like to hear your perspective.
Alright. I think we should be moving TOWARDS a global/open borders type situation. That doesn't mean we have to do that overnight. The first step could be shoring up actual real defenses against illegal immigration, steps that are actually practical rather than investing in a border wall.
The next step is a legal path to citizenship for the undocumented people that find themselves here. Maybe that means excluding anyone who has committed a felony, those people might be out of luck, but a lot of undocumented people should get some kind of bridge to citizenship. Take the DREAMER girl who was brought here from Argentina at 7. She doesn't have any idea of what it's like to live in Argentina, deporting her there now that she's in her 20's is cruel and unusual and doesn't really make any sense. Let people like that have some way to become complete citizens so they can be more productive in our society.
As an atheist, I find all religion to have its objectionable or disagreeable parts. However, I also think that all religions are based on good principles and most practicers of each religion actually believe in, for example, The Golden Rule. We got to stop looking at Muslim people with this kind of suspicion that we don't look at other people with. 99.999% of Muslims are not terrorists or anything close to it, and I don't have the numbers but most victims of extremist violence through the world are also Muslim. Many majority Muslim populations in different countries have to "show fealty" to the Taliban or ISIS or whatever, but that doesn't mean they actually support the organizations. They are under constant threat of violence if they speak out, and the Taliban often provides assistance to local communities to help them farm and survive. So that the locals feel pressured to support and be loyal to these groups.
Another big part of the picture that doesn't get brought up very much is global warming. The climate is changing rapidly and that is displacing people. In 20 years immigration will be a much bigger problem than it is now, unless we act now to reverse the effects of global warming. And that seems very unlikely under the Trump administration, so I'm definitely worried about future immigration conflicts being worse than current ones.
A big problem with this kind of view of the world is it's complicated and nuanced and it's much easier just to say "Muslims are scary!" and "Rule of law!" But the world is a complicated place.