In contrast of jalfrezi lolling at people because he can quote one line from a rando journalist lying though his teeth. That is of course good enough as a source for jalfrezi when it suits his agenda, from me he requires state compiled statistics or peer reviewed research(which I have shown before). How would he react if I linked to lets say Breitbart to back my claims?

I have simply come to terms that it is not worth the effort with these people.

On the topic of lolScandinavia and immigration/refugees:

Denmark's refugee entrepreneurs



Meanwhile, Marnazi's guy has something to say about this:

Yes, you heard it here first- people from other countries sometimes speak a different language. Shocking behaviour.

And foreigners are lazy.

lolMarnazi

Do you think I read or give a **** about your link to some random article? No I didn't read your quotes either.

Lazy and criminal bus seat covers? Hells Bells.

First, a message from your sponsor:




That still leaves you needing to repeat your BS about immigrants about 900 times. Oh joy.

A criminologist at Malmo University says crime in the city overall has been falling in recent years. The use of Balkan war-surplus hand grenades by organised crime is obviously pretty nasty, though.

https://qz.com/886244/open-borders-a...ave-in-sweden/

The lack of police traction against immigrant organised crime is what you tend to find in a segregated society, where police don't have personnel of the ethnic mix found in the community. Once police have undercover officers and informants inside the gangs, the picture will change.

Who is Gerell, why is he looking at 5 years and what crimes is he looking at?

What is said in the article gives no kind of oversight. We have plenty of left leaning activists in our universities sited by mainstream media. I have learned the hard way that you need to look at the grand schemes of things yourself including statistics over decades to get a clear view of the development of the situation.

Malmö has more shootings, cars burned and murders per capita than any other Nordic city by far, if it has little to do with immigration, then what caused this development? Malmö is receiving about 33% of its public budget from other parts of the country to 'even out finances'. So they are not being economically discriminated, rather the opposite, it has become a sink hole for welfare of different kinds.

Its easy to decieve the public without actually being wrong about the actual numbers. Crime is going down everywhere but that is doing the same propaganda as showing the wage gap and saying that women are discriminated against. comparing apples and oranges to win an argument and stay in line with the ideology.

Crime is down in Malmö if you include that less people are jaywalking and they have more urinals and less street cops so the public urinators dont get caught as often. Traffic crimes are also declining because there are less cops out on the roads to catch people etc etc. Violent crimes and drug related crimes in "no go zones" are up and there is a huge grey zone there aswell since the police presence and willingness to report crimes in those areas are very low.

Combine all the different sorts of crimes and you can paint a pretty picture that things are under controll because thats what politicians no matter if they are left or right do. The opposition points out that crime is up and the ones in charge fiddle with the numbers and show the public that everything is ok.

Completely agree, in fact this became painfully obvious after looking at these crime statistics myself. I have lost a lot of trust in authority and 'journalists' as a result.

I find this page shameful for the Swedish nation, although too few realize why.

http://www.government.se/articles/20...ime-in-sweden/

Obfustication and half lies with some grains of truth. Simply propaganda instead of trying to enlighten anyone of the situation.

Do we know what city/town Marnazi is from? He's probably from Kiruna, right?

I'm getting the same feeling that I get when people from Idaho start talking about Chicago, when I was born and raised on the south side of Chicago. Like, just because your postal address includes USA#1 doesn't mean your Idahoan ass has some sort of authority on Dat Crime in These Streets.

If you wish to repeat/defend those sorts of factual claims after being challenged then you are going to have to produce cites.

I looked at the first item in your link:

It seems correct to say there's only been one known Islamic terrorist attack, but the 2017 Stockholm attack certainly looks like a 'lone wolf' copycat incident carried out by a supporter of ISIS, though probably not planned by ISIS, similar to some London attacks.

A grand total of two such attacks in 7 years amounting to 17 dead from a population of 10 million doesn't seem like any reason to start panicking.

What are your objections to the government's line here?

Thoughts on this? It almost looks like our agencies cherrypick the data to paint a picture...

And this:
The most remarkable thing is that the supposed sources that they gathered this information from doesnt exist... Or atleast isnt shared

It looks strange to use different years for comparison purposes, but if that's your complaint the government choosing to highlight a near doubling of firearm deaths from 2011 to 2015 refutes your conspiracy theory unless you can show that other years were much higher

Also, admitting that

looks anything but dishonest.


They have that in common with your compatriot Marn then, don't they?

How can you ever adress a problem if you are always trying to hide some of the symptoms?
As ive pointed out earlier that this has very little to do with religion and pretty much everything to do with culture. The government hides/misrepresent stats in order to not get called racist since they have dug themselves into such a hole by calling everyone racist that questions anything that happens in the "no go zones".

Marn has posted plenty of sources that people either says are from the wrong place but if they arent then it still doesnt matter since you deem him a racist anyways. If you actually tried to discuss the issues when he posts sources instead of only trying to discredit then i bet he would post sources everytime.

You realise I'm discussing the issues now, right? Let's see if he posts his data sources that prove the government is lying.

You gotta flash the Marnazi signal to get him to crawl from under his rock:

Not expecting to hear much from him today.

I guess for 2+2's neo-Nazi sympathisers and apologists it will be a sombre day of watching videos on repeat of liberal demonstrators getting killed.

It certainly does put things in perspective that the most "dangerous" city in Sweden had 33 homicides caused by firearms in a year. That is a slow week in many American cities.

A simple beating used to get in the biggest papers... Yes Sweden used to be very low on serious crime(low population though). Very low on poverty aswell since modern socialism is good at erasing that if you have a population that accepts the premise. Now we arent homogenous and the foundation is slowly starting to crack...