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05-17-2014 , 02:06 PM
I am going to post here again because I think this article may get more discussion here than in the other forum threadzilla on this topic.

I'm Making $21 an Hour at McDucks. Why Aren't You?
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You see, I work for McDonald’s in Denmark, where an agreement between our union and the company guarantees that workers older than 18 are paid at least $21 an hour. Employees younger than 18 make at least $15 — meaning teenagers working at McDonald’s in Denmark make more than two times what many adults in America earn working at the Golden Arches.

To anyone who says that fast-food jobs can’t be good jobs, I would answer that mine isn’t bad. In fact, parts of it are just fine. Under our union’s agreement with McDonald’s, for example, I receive paid sick leave that workers are still fighting for in many parts of the world. We also get overtime pay, guaranteed hours and at least two days off a week, unlike workers in most countries. At least 10 percent of the staff in any given restaurant must work at least 30 hours a week.
Interesting
05-17-2014 , 02:13 PM
what is Denmark?
05-17-2014 , 02:21 PM
I'm sure we can do the same in America. However, the extra value meal would avg $12 or so. They probably charge 8 euros over there. I bet they don't have a .60 euro menu. Or .30 euro apple pie.
05-17-2014 , 02:26 PM
I was out of the country for almost five years. Before I left, I could get a grilled chicken meal for $5 and some change. Now it's just under $8 for the same meal. Nothing has changed except the minimum wage.. it has increased a couple bucks since, I assume..
05-17-2014 , 02:46 PM
I think I paid 20 bucks US for a bigmac combo in Amsterdam airport a few years ago.
05-17-2014 , 03:04 PM
McDonald's chooses to pay less in other places.
05-17-2014 , 04:45 PM
And people choose to work there.

I doubt the concept of potentially paying fast food workers "$21" an hour here in the US would be a feasible one.
05-17-2014 , 06:03 PM
I work in a city in northern Canada where all the fast food employees are making minimum $15/hr. Fast food is also more expensive here than anywhere in Canada. It is not a city minimum wage that is forcing the high wages, it is the extremely good local economy.
05-17-2014 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDuker
Always thought this was fatally flawed by assuming cost almost exclusively drives pricing.
05-17-2014 , 07:22 PM
$21 an hour is almost what an engineer makes in the States. Let's just mandate all employees employed at anything all make the same wage because fairness.
05-17-2014 , 07:31 PM
I'm gonna tell my friend to employ be as a boulder roller. I'm gonna work for minimum wage rolling this boulder up and down a hill again and again and again. The locals will marvel at my sisyphean task and draw the metro reporters. "Look how hard I work" I will exclaim to those covering my story. Literally no one in America will be working a more brutally hard job as my boulder rolling job. "I work harder than anyone else in America and they only pay me minimum wage, this is an outrage!"


By the leftist logic that hardness of work = level of deserved pay then that means government should mandate me to be the new Bill Gates.
05-17-2014 , 07:34 PM
If we made our minimum $30 an hour wouldn't that be even better?
05-17-2014 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
If we made our minimum $30 an hour wouldn't that be even better?
Yes but if the article is factual then McDucks at that location is profitable more than likely right? There are other factors possibly to consider but I am guessing that more things are automated thus labor costs aren't that much more in total if at all.
05-17-2014 , 08:20 PM
they get taxed half!
05-17-2014 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ShaneG
they get taxed half!
So? What does that have to do with McDucks profits?
05-17-2014 , 09:01 PM
Title says they make $21/hour, a bit misleading when the tax is 50% and they're only taking in $10.50/hour.
05-18-2014 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
If we made our minimum $30 an hour wouldn't that be even better?
$30/ per hr. pfft.

Why not $60 per.

Think of all the monies that would be pump into the economies!!!
05-18-2014 , 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ShaneG
Title says they make $21/hour, a bit misleading when the tax is 50% and they're only taking in $10.50/hour.
Not really, McDonalds pays him $21 an hour. Rarely if ever do I hear people quote their pay rates in after tax terms but whatever. McDonalds pays him $21 an hour supposedly and that is a before tax pay rate. So that is cleared up now.
05-18-2014 , 01:39 AM
During jury duty last week a couple of guys in the construction and oil field equipment industries said the McDonalds in Odessa, TX is hiring at $25/hour. And they have a McShuttle Bus to go around town picking up employees who need a ride to work.
05-18-2014 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ShaneG
Title says they make $21/hour, a bit misleading when the tax is 50% and they're only taking in $10.50/hour.
Progressive taxation how does it work.
05-18-2014 , 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by adios
Not really, McDonalds pays him $21 an hour. Rarely if ever do I hear people quote their pay rates in after tax terms but whatever.
Really? That must be an American thing. In Europe I feel like many people who aren't working freelance barely even know what their pre-tax salary is.
05-18-2014 , 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ShaneG
Title says they make $21/hour, a bit misleading when the tax is 50% and they're only taking in $10.50/hour.
I live in Denmark.
My hourly is the equivalent of 29$.
My tax rate is about 35%.
So no.
05-18-2014 , 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by skalf
I live in Denmark.
My hourly is the equivalent of 29$.
My tax rate is about 35%.
So no.
I must have been misinformed, congrats on the 29/hr tho.
05-18-2014 , 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by A_C_Slater
$21 an hour is almost what an engineer makes in the States.
Almost as in way more than that?

      
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