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09-23-2014 , 03:31 PM

#176

DudeImBetter

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Needs more smiley faces.

09-23-2014 , 03:32 PM

#177

Anais

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10-01-2014 , 07:56 PM

#178

ikestoys

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Quote:

Originally Posted by master3004

Criminals might be less likely to carry if they know other people aren't carrying. It could lead to less violence, kind of the whole point

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Originally Posted by master3004

For what reason does a criminal have to pack heat if he doesn't fear retaliation from the person he is attacking? Would a knife or bat not do as good of a job in that situation? Those are also much less expensive. There is a reason that gun crime in places with bans is so much lower than ours. Maybe their criminals not fearing getting face shot is one of them?

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Originally Posted by ikestoys

No a knife or a bad would not do as good of a job. lol master.

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Originally Posted by master3004

explain why not

lolololol

10-01-2014 , 07:57 PM

#179

master3004

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So basically you can't explain why a criminal might be able to commit a robbery using a knife or bat instead of a gun when he has no fear of gun retaliation right?

10-01-2014 , 07:58 PM

#180

ikestoys

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lol i can and did but your idiocy deserves a spot here.

10-01-2014 , 08:00 PM

#181

master3004

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Fair enough. You're wrong, but that's your default setting, so I'm not sure what else I would expect

10-01-2014 , 10:46 PM

#182

kerowo

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You seriously think crims carry guns because they are afraid of victims with guns? That seems pretty stupid.

10-01-2014 , 10:51 PM

#183

ikestoys

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Not only does he think that, he thinks criminals would prefer to carry knives and bats over guns, because they're probably not violent.

lolololol

10-01-2014 , 11:05 PM

#184

master3004

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kerowo

You seriously think crims carry guns because they are afraid of victims with guns? That seems pretty stupid.

Not what I said at all, thanks for playing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

Not only does he think that, he thinks criminals would prefer to carry knives and bats over guns, because they're probably not violent.

lolololol

Also didn't say that. I said that knowing that the person they are victimizing will not have a gun will lead to less instances of the criminal having a gun because 1. They won't need it, and 2. Bats and knives are considerably less expensive. You seem to have a problem understanding exactly how trying to LIMIT things works. Nobody is saying that all criminals would stop using guns, I said it would likely lead to a reduction

10-01-2014 , 11:09 PM

#185

ikestoys

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You can say you didn't say it all you want, it's quoted above.

10-01-2014 , 11:22 PM

#186

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Quote:

Originally Posted by master3004

So basically you can't explain why a criminal might be able to commit a robbery using a knife or bat instead of a gun when he has no fear of gun retaliation right?

He said it wouldn't do as good of a job. You seriously can't see why?

10-02-2014 , 12:10 AM

#187

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I'm asking why. I'll pose the same question to you, what could someone holding you up with a gun get you to do that somebody with a knife could not?

10-02-2014 , 12:19 AM

#188

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Originally Posted by master3004

I'm asking why. I'll pose the same question to you, what could someone holding you up with a gun get you to do that somebody with a knife could not?

I get where you're going, and support tighter gun regulations because of it, but if I've got enough cash on me, I can outrun a knife. I think you got Iked on this one.

10-02-2014 , 12:26 AM

#189

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Originally Posted by master3004

I'm asking why. I'll pose the same question to you, what could someone holding you up with a gun get you to do that somebody with a knife could not?

I'm a pussy, so probably nothing. Best to approach it from the muggers perspective. With a knife/bat, Usain Bolt is getting away. If someone is an extremely good fighter, they could turn the situation on you. You can mug 2 people pretty safely.

10-02-2014 , 08:53 AM

#190

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Quote:

Originally Posted by master3004

I'm asking why. I'll pose the same question to you, what could someone holding you up with a gun get you to do that somebody with a knife could not?

Smart crooks carry guns because they wan't to have overwhelming force to reduce the risk of the victim resisting. They don't carry guns to get in shoot outs with anyone. Dumb crooks don't do the equations you think happen, they want to use guns because it makes them a bad ass.

You don't have to try such tortured logic to justify gun control, all you have to do is look to Australia to find a first world example of imposing gun control in modern times and have it work.

10-06-2014 , 12:11 PM

#191

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Quote:

Originally Posted by master3004

Um No. Lol you seem to think criminals are logical rational people.

10-06-2014 , 02:14 PM

#192

master3004

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And you seem to be generalizing all criminals as stupid. Way to make a bad point.

10-06-2014 , 02:55 PM

#193

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No, I am arguing that they are not rational or logical people. I never said stupid.

10-06-2014 , 03:32 PM

#194

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Fantastic ****** rant from Deuces this morning on Netanyahu's UN address:

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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken

I listened to N Yahoo's U.N speech. I'll break it down for you.

The racist face of Israel is so hateful he can't hide it anymore. Yahoo started off brazenly opportunistic as ever as his bigoted fear and war mongering painted entire swaths of disparate peoples, who happen to share the Islamic faith, with the ISIS broad brush. He said "Hamas is ISIS and ISIS is Hamas". Then he made the obligatory unsupported Nazi comparison to all Islamic militants everywhere. You can imagine the conversation in the Israeli propaganda war room "Yes! ISIS just cut off another head (cheers)! Now, we've got to associate this with Hamas. We’ve done this before...they are both Islamic, both Arabs. Easy game! The Americans will eat this up but we've got to make the connection now, while the 'disconnection' is fresh (laughs)".

Yahoo went on to:

- Characterizes Palestinian resistance to occupation as fanaticism

- Cites Israel's remarkable concern for Palestinian citizens during their bombing of a defenseless population. Pretty cringe worthy. I mean, 500 dead children is remarkable concern compared to what? your burning desire to kill them all?

- Targets Iran as the preeminent threat to the world. Never mind that Iran has been a relatively rational actor in foreign affairs all this time while Israel continually threatens them, carries out assignations of Iranians in Iran, and bombs them.

- Called the U.N. Human Rights Council a "Terrorist Rights Council". Accused the U.N. of biased treatment of Israel.

- Starts in on the worldwide antisemitism canard, in his mind a magical talisman protecting Israel from all legitimate criticism.

- Made a vague reference to Saudi Arabia as a leading Arab state facing the same challenges as Israel. I suppose he means carrying out terrorism and getting away with it.

- Cites archeology as a source of validation for Israel's claim to the land they are taking by illegal settlement expansion. Who needs the law when we have crackpot Zionist archeologists to tell us who, currently, belongs where? Send these experts of deep history real estate claims over here and help us get rid of this loud Mexican music in my estimation.

But yeah, it's certainly "important" when a delusional extremist sitting on nukes offers a self righteous, threat ridden diatribe at the U.N.

10-10-2014 , 06:36 AM

#195

Deuces McKracken

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Not a bad or stupid post per say but still...

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Do you get a flat per diem or do you get reimbursed what your receipts are? When I get a flat per diem when I go to conferences, I eat cheap and pocket the sweet, sweet monies.

for shame. Some people seize the day. Trolly seizes the per day.

No one ever accused you of living too hard, did they Trolly?

10-10-2014 , 06:39 AM

#196

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken

Not a bad or stupid post per say but still...

for shame. Some people seize the day. Trolly seizes the per day.

No one ever accused you of living too hard, did they Trolly?

10-10-2014 , 11:20 AM

#197

ikestoys

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lolol deuces

10-15-2014 , 11:09 PM

#198

kerowo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken

I'm not a horrible poster. I'm one of the better posters. I happen to have depth of knowledge on the things I post about and I have the time and inclination to write well formulated posts.

Too bad physics isn't one of those things.

10-16-2014 , 02:19 AM

#199

Deuces McKracken

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Originally Posted by kerowo

Too bad physics isn't one of those things.

Simple Newtonian physics? That was my **** I'll kick all yalls asses in that. But more importantly there are a ton of people with degrees in engineering who side with me so tell me why you choose one expert over another? I know it still hurts from getting owned a few pages back kerowo I don't know what to tell you. Live with it? Learn to read better?

10-16-2014 , 08:40 AM

#200

kerowo

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I'm sorry, that response wasn't in the 9/11 thread so I get to play one of your cards and ignore it. You didn't insult me in the 9/11 thread so I'm not actually insulted.

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