LOL, yeah that mises crew sure figured out ACism didn't they?

Japan does matter. More to the point, Canada matters. These societies, Japan in theory and Canada in practice, show that the availability of guns is not a sufficient condition for the outcome of mass shootings. We are trying to stop something from happening and so we need to know the cause.

You might say the cause is a two part condition, crazy Americans and the availability of guns and so if we cut off part two then we win. But a problem emerges quickly. The very apparent constraint that we can't ban all guns means that we will have to define qualifications for gun ownership which deny mass shooters access to guns while letting others buy them.

How? If there was some huge overlap between hardened criminality and mass shootings then sure, no felons can have guns- problem solved. But that's not the reality, which is that these mass shooters would almost always slip through any reasonable qualifications barrier. They have no felonies. They don't have a mark on their foreheads. They don't have profiles which both indicate their likelihood of committing a mass shooting and are socially unacceptable, and that would be a requirement for disqualifying them.

Let's say instead of mass shootings, people started copycatting the European terrorists and ramming people with cars. What restrictions on driver's licensees do you think would be effective there?

Japan matters. Germany Matters. Australia and Switzerland matter. Hey! It all matters. My AQ matters. Black lives matter. The world is composed of matter. Family Matters. Lol.

Can we get that stickied ITT?

YEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAWWWW, BIATCHES!!




FREE ToothSayer!!

lol. Jefferson obviously preferred slavery.

Focus on mental health.

Thread over

^^Agreed. Federally legalize bud and use the tax money to fund the mental health program. Win Win.

It was not long ago that many American high schools had gun ranges and students would bring their guns to school. Yet we didn't have mass school shootings during that time.

So what changed?

Even today, there are still American high schools out there that offer trap and skeet shooting, but oddly enough there have been no mass school shooting incidents in those schools.

The US is saturated with guns? What is that supposed to mean anyway?

sat·u·rat·ed

adjective: saturated



1. holding as much water or moisture as can be absorbed; thoroughly soaked.




•Chemistry
(of a solution) containing the largest possible amount of a particular solute.


•having or holding as much as can be absorbed of something.
"the glitzy, media-saturated plasticity of Los Angeles"

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Excellent emotionalism using the term saturated, which implies that every adult in the US has a firearm, hardly true.

Meh. Even the pro gun crowd uses the number of guns out there as a reason it's impossible to legislate any meaningful gun regulation. Which is it, there are too many guns out there or too few?

I disagree. Many Americans are ignorant of their own government and how it functions:

Americans-knowledge-of-the-branches-of-government-is-declining-300325968.html

Only one example from google search:

If polls are to be believed. Many are not conducted correctly or are bias. But I think further investigation would show much the same thing through much of American Society.

There are about 40 million more guns than people in the US. Nearly anyone who wants one can acquire one easily. That's not emotional, it's hard fact.

Also, I know what "saturated"means. If you're going to be a patronizing, insulting troll with nothing to add to the conversation, take it to a pizza thread. Chez is trying to keep these threads civil and on topic.

Source for the above?

As to the bolded that is excellent if true. It means that the 2nd amendment is alive and well in the US and many are exercising their right to own a firearm, or multiple firearms.

The total is somewhat misleading though. Many families and individuals do not own firearms. While the gun nuts have oodles of them per household. So saturated may indeed not be a qualified description. More hard facts on firearm ownership per individual/household numbers are needed. The FBI may have figures on this - Or other government agencies (ATF) or think-tank institutions. It may also be hard to find reasonable figures on the actually number.

Patronizing works well, everyone does it. I will also add the disclaimer that I do not own any stock in any gun companies. So I have no financial interest in my promotion of American Gun Culture.

It's legal for every adult in the US to own a gun afaict, except perhaps felons and there's a black market to service them. I don't think it's a stretch to say that guns are very easy to acquire in the US, esp in comparison to any other 1st-world country. .

There have been mass shootings forever in this country, in schools and elsewhere. They might be more common now and end up with bigger "scores" for the shooters, but they're not a new thing.

Moar guns please

japanese think guns make you happy.



is this correct, wil?

You're a liberal (or meant to be). You shouldn't care FFS.

Wat?

There's no good reason for you to judge what other people wish to do with their time and money as long as they're not hurting anyone.

Good thing no one gets hurt by assault rifles in the hands of civilians...

fyp

More false equivalency from the right, what a surprise.

fyp