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Originally Posted by Anais
Here ya go, boss.
An actual study. This is the kind of thing adults read when they want to learn stuff, as opposed to the opinions of talking heads.
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These comparisons make it clear that, whatever Frank’s observations
may suggest, the growing importance of social issues in American electoral politics over
the past 20 years is mostly not a working-class phenomenon
LOL.
pretty funny you rely on some princeton intellectual to tell you which way the wind blows.
read your 25 pages of intellectual dog-**** that basically says what i've been saying for years. democrats need to regain their populist roots (which warren and bernie are trying to do).
then you've got this contradictory dog-****:
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Frank’s working-class white voters clearly discern a very substantial difference between
the parties’ positions on the issue, though his account requires seeing “politicians of both
parties in rough agreement” (Frank 2005, 13).
Second, Frank’s white working-class voters were neither liberal in absolute terms
nor closer to the Democratic Party than to the Republican Party on economic issues.
On the central issue of government spending and services, voters who saw themselves
as closer to the Republican Party outnumbered those who saw themselves as closer to
the Democratic Party by four percentage points. On the issues of government jobs and
aid to blacks the pluralities seeing themselves as closer to the Republican Party were
even larger – nine and 15 percentage points, respectively. Moreover, 60% to 85% of the
voters who perceived differences between their own position and the Democratic Party’s
position on each of these economic issues said the Democratic Party was too liberal, not
too conservative. Thus, it is hard to see why taking even more liberal positions on these
issues, or stressing them more heavily, would help the Democrats win back the white
working class.
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Even if we set aside that paramount historical fact, the erosion of Democratic support
among Frank’s white working-class voters does not seem plausibly attributable to the
“hallucinatory appeal” of “cultural wedge issues like guns and abortion” (Frank 2004,
245). For one thing, Frank’s white working-class voters continue to attach less weight
to social and cultural issues than to bread-and-butter economic issues in deciding how
to vote.
what is this even saying? that the only reason they vote republican is because they've been convinced (by the fascists in the media) that they are better suited to run the economy when anyone with half a brain knows they aren't.
when this guy says they are attaching less weight to social issues it's impossible to accept. i talk with these people, i'm among them, i know more than some princeton schmuck about this particular phenomena. i don't give a **** what his boring ass data says.
you present this guys study as though its fact. it's just his opinion, and it's 8 ****ing years old.
political landscape has shifted hugely in the following years, no? just the impact of C.U. makes this study irrelevant.
next time do better than, i'm sure he's wrong let me scour the internet for something that backs up my views and try attacking my words.
we all know if you ask a voter the most important issues, they'll nearly all say the economy. so if they've been fooled about that it just means that propaganda and advertising works on dumb people.