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01-05-2017 , 09:40 PM

juan valdez

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As someone who was recently banned for sexism by claiming the classrooms on campuses are teaching material in contradiction with mainstream science and using unscientific methodology, I think it would be a good idea to discuss gender studies. Women and trans studies are basically political nonsense making scientific claims. They are left operate because any opposition gets shouted down as a bigot or phobe. This also applies to ethnic studies

I will provide citation but its breakfast time now

01-05-2017 , 09:56 PM

Bladesman87

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What's taught in a trans studies class that contradicts mainstream science?

01-05-2017 , 10:08 PM

Black Peter

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Find an empirical research article from a women's studies journal (e.g. Sex Roles). Illustrate how the chosen methodology and design are incorrectly aligned with the research questions and hypotheses. Or show us how the statistical analyses are incorrectly conducted based on the hypotheses or data.

Then show us how this article is indicative of the field of women's studies as a whole, and how that differs significantly from general mainstream scientific journals. If you conduct a meta-analysis to show inflated effect sizes in women's studies journals compared to mainstream journals, then extra points.

01-05-2017 , 10:23 PM

Michael1999

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There's actually a trans studies class?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Where do you go to school? I want to enroll for this class.

01-05-2017 , 10:26 PM

Michael1999

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Non-binary is juSt a term used by people who are too ugly to be male or female.

01-05-2017 , 10:36 PM

NoQuarter

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3:00

The whole vid is pretty badass and applies nicely to a high percentage of "smarts" all up in 2+2 IMHO

Likely NSFW nowadays

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01-05-2017 , 11:07 PM

leavesofliberty

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How many socioligists does it take to screw in a light bulb?

01-06-2017 , 02:49 AM

Black Peter

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Psychology and its related fields (psychiatry, sociology, etc) is so full of fraud and poorly conducted research that it's become almost useless to try to parse out the good studies. Perhaps this is what you're referring to, Juan? However, to say that women's studies is particularly bad needs some evidence. I have found that their journals are fairly rigorous, albeit biased in a way that only certain groups try to publish there. This does not necessarily mean that their findings are corrupted.

01-06-2017 , 08:14 AM

Black Peter

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael1999

There's actually a trans studies class?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Where do you go to school? I want to enroll for this class.

It's actually a very good idea for a class. Think about it. College is where you get to take any class you want to learn about new things. This would be an excellent choice for those who are interested in learning about things they prob won't experience much elsewhere.

01-06-2017 , 02:14 PM

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leavesofliberty

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juan, you promised some extra poo on top of the OP.

01-06-2017 , 02:23 PM

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Bladesman87

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Originally Posted by NoQuarter

3:00

The whole vid is pretty badass and applies nicely to a high percentage of "smarts" all up in 2+2 IMHO

I reject the idea that degrees only have value in terms of their direct economic return.

01-06-2017 , 08:37 PM

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juan valdez

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Originally Posted by Black Peter

i think its a clever move to state at the beginning how and what you demand out of me. steer the conversation in the direction you want. unfortunately this is my thread. its an effective tactic in being "right" but its not an effective way to discover truth or areas of contradiction. im not going to search through journals if i can listen to professors or "experts" on womens studies and see the contradiction with actual science that appears to be sound. if you don't find the science i believe to be accurate then you are free to express how and why

01-06-2017 , 08:41 PM

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Black Peter

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Originally Posted by juan valdez

Just as i thought. You have no clue how to back up your empty statements. You likely don't even understand what i was asking for. Oh well, i should have known, given your inability to do so in any previous threads.

01-06-2017 , 08:44 PM

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Black Peter

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Quote:

Originally Posted by juan valdez

I will provide citation but its breakfast time now

Quote:

im not going to search through journals if i can listen to professors or "experts" on womens studies and see the contradiction with actual science that appears to be sound.

Priceless.

01-06-2017 , 08:49 PM

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juan valdez

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here we see dr jordan peterson reference two scientific studies that directly contradict the teachings of womens studies

01-06-2017 , 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Peter

I'm not sure why you think your claims require less substantiation than his.

01-06-2017 , 09:11 PM

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Black Peter

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Originally Posted by well named

I'm not sure why you think your claims require less substantiation than his.

I posted my sources awhile back. You are well aware of them.

Or I might have confused you with someone else. I'll post them again tomorrow.

01-06-2017 , 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Peter

I posted my sources awhile back. You are well aware of them.

I'm not, honestly. I don't recall you posting any sources that substantiate that the majority of social science research is fraudulent, for example. If you've posted anything that substantiates the claims in the post I quoted then I've missed it.

01-06-2017 , 10:03 PM

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juan valdez

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Originally Posted by Black Peter

Priceless.

priceless is having your undivided attention. thanks

as i said its a nice tactic to shift the arguement to suit yourself but thats not happening here. i am talking about what is being taught by professors at universities. information that gets transfered to the students/sjw's. not journals. we will look at how unscientific their claims are and also look at how they contradict actual science and research

01-06-2017 , 10:20 PM

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Jbrochu

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Where do I enroll for that class?

01-06-2017 , 11:29 PM

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chezlaw

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Deleted so not here, sorry.

01-06-2017 , 11:37 PM

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Jbrochu

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Why didn't you leave that as a lesson on what we're not supposed to post?

01-06-2017 , 11:39 PM

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chezlaw

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I think people know that. Plus it was totally off topic. If you want to raise it in the moderation thread then feel free but lets leave this thread be.

01-06-2017 , 11:56 PM

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spanktehbadwookie

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I think anyone who thinks they are an authority of my gender, but has not studied me, is not.

01-07-2017 , 08:12 AM

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Black Peter

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Originally Posted by juan valdez

Ok, but how do they contradict actual science? What exactly are they teaching that's incorrect?

More importantly, why do you care? Are transgenders hiding under your bed and scaring you?

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