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Originally Posted by jjshabado
Lol. The mental gymnastics you guys go to are pretty amazing.
Yeah, totally not a problem that a women gets penalized as long as her husband gets some offsetting benefit (or more accurately some other man somewhere...)? Like there's no consequences in terms of how people feel, power dynamics in relationships, options the women have in cases of divorce, consequences on financial decisions for the family, etc. etc.
mental gymnastics? i'm not pedaling completely false narratives to divide people and create resentment
if you haven't heard obama give a wage gap speech, go do it. i've posted already and its very easy to find. he tells women how badly they are getting screwed and how sexist society is. he is doing this by describing the 77 cent wage gap myth. this is a myth that could be debunked by a junior high student and yet the president is perpetuating it (along with hilary) in order to divide and create resentment. theres no chance they didnt realize they were being dishonest. also go ahead and do some research on creating resentment through class guilt, "privilege", and oppression in the 20th century, the body count is over 100 million. im not saying they are trying to take things that far but to dismiss how toxic it is, is totally ignorant. obama also does this at murdered cops funerals
the point is, lets look at reality vs obama and hilary speaking to the whole country
obama and hilarys message- you are getting screwed at the rate of 77 cents on the dollar. the country is sexist. you are being oppressed. you are a victim. we need to change and you need to fight for change. we need to fix this 77 cent wage gap. the gap should be zero
reality- there should be a wage gap. we don't know what it should be or for who but filtering by groups should actually never give you equal outcomes. there is a 6-12 cent wage gap. we aren't sure what the cause is, but certainly sexism is a portion of it since sexism exists. but even that is complicated since female servers make more money than male servers. on top of all that, more women benefit from a 6-12 cent wage gap than are penalized
yes the 6-12 cent wage gap is a worthwhile cause to investigate. discrimination is illegal and that should be enforced. what should happen is people start with the premise that we should not see equal outcomes. having a 6-12 cent wage gap isnt some giant red flag. what causes that gap is going to be very complex and interesting to discover, if thats your pursuit. we just saw a study that shows a wage gap in height. are we going to start measuring people, classifying them as tall and short, and then trying to figure out how society can stop oppressing short people in the work place? the point is, this list of oppressed people can grow and grow and keep growing to the point you realize you have to abandon it. or, we could look at balding men next. these things might be interesting and worthwhile to investigate but starting from the point that unequal outcomes is a sign of an oppressive system, is just total garbage. its incredibly divisive and toxic. it creates resentment and reactions (forms of affirmative action) that actually create more oppression and resentment