Yeah because P is doing a bang up job being a "vibrant" and "judgment free" forum. With you people nothing is judgment free because you people are judgmental! What is offensive, fly? Where does it end? Who will be offended by what and at what point will everything have to be censored?

You people are idiots, too stupid to see the road you are going down. Take your crying bitch ass back to your echo chamber and ****ing stay there. You are trash, stay where you belong with all the people who nod their heads in agreement.

He just made that call. Scroll up a bit.

Call FlyWF on that Mat. Make him provide you a link, and decide for yourself if my arguments against punishing Holocaust denial (which is routinely done in Europe) are equivalent to actual Holocaust denial. This is how they operate, Mat, if you haven't already figured that out by now.

Watching Fly cry is making me laugh, though. I always wondered how far he would take his butthurt. Look at him. Straight up pathetic. Ohhhhhh mat pleaasssseeeee shut it down waahhhhhhhhhhh my fee fees are hurtttttt.

Grow a dick, fly. Loser.

link?

That's the thing.

Mat, you totally are 100% within your rights to operate this forum as a place where chezlaw can strictly enforce the personal attack rules to allow people to question how much of the Holocaust could be exaggerated in order to support a politically driven narrative.

Gotta hear both sides, right?

So before we go any farther I think it's good to set the ground rules. Is that a debate you want to have here, or not?

Why is Fly telling mat what he should or shouldn't do? I thought chez was the mod here?

Lol at this entire situation. Fly, you really are a weasly bitch.

Pretty much exactly why every conversation on anything controversial fails brilliantly. Even meta conversations on what should be considered racism, sexism...Holocaust denial are swarmed by intolerant non-thinking nitwits bent on shaming or banning anyone who questions them. I hope he gives you a link to the conversation he's describing, Mat.

I'm not telling anyone what to do. I'm asking Mat some questions. I'm legitimately interested in the answers. There's a difference between "I'm OK with hosting a white supremacist political subforum because Wookie bans racists from Politics alpha" and "I would have a problem with that, but don't think having posts about Holocaust denial and lynching denial and spreading bizarre lies about Muslim immigrants makes a forum full of white supremacists."

The last 3 or 4 years have seen a big resurgence in right wing extremism online, 2p2 isn't immune to that, and there's obviously a big debate across content providers and social media about what, if anything, should be done about it.

Giving chezlaw this forum was something Mat seems like he did on a lark, but I'm interested in his thoughts about where we go from here.

having woken from my nap and being distracted by a hacking i don't really have the desire to debate the contents of the politics forums.

i really do have faith in chez's judgment and really don't believe this forum is a bunch of racists in a circle jerk. if i'm wrong, i guess i just don't really care at this time. these are simply words in a pretty unimportant space on the internet.

now if you come to vegas and want to debate in person over some beer, i'll buy the beer.

You are great at making assertions, FlyWF. In this forum, you are obliged to back them up. There is no Wookie to ban anyone who makes you look bad.

Who are the white supremacists here? If you are that butthurt about posts in a forum you aren't even wanted in (which in and of itself is hilarious) then report it to chez.

Now go the **** away.

Well it's good to see people will side with common sense. Beat it, Fly. As much as you would LOVE this to be storefront 2 so you can have a cause to fight for, it's not.

And let it be known how much of a douchebag you really are.

Just to be clear. Fly is totally wrong - holocaust denial is not allowed here, nor is lynching denial, nor is much else he may chose to claim is allowed.

I am legit curious to know who swung the axe there.

Good lord, I didn't even know that was a thing.

I assume Fly is refering to when TS brought up some stuff about lynchings. Slightly before my time but it would violate the PC rules now.

Some might see the fact that it was allowed in unchained but is no longer allowed in Politics v7.0 as a good thing.

It's not. It's just another crazy thing your little idiot liberal morons do to rally people to their nonsense causes. They lie.

But, you're no stranger to that, are you?

That really wasn't the argument at all. No one denied lynchings happened, the argument was if it affected other groups too. Anyways, that's what I remember. I'd have to reread it.

Literally none of these descriptions are accurate.

I haven't seen Holocaust denial here, ever. Were there deleted posts or something?

There was zero lynching denial - in all the conversations here, all participants believed it happened, did not dispute the numbers it was reported as happening to, nor did any participants dispute that some of it was racist. This is just a fantasy claim you're making, and pretty hypocritical, especially considering that Muslim terrorism is killing civilians (mostly Muslim!) at about 500x the rate that lynchings killed black people. Your ugly terrorism denial has no place in chezland.

There have been no "bizarre lies" made up about Muslim immigrants. Nearly everything in the Muslim thread has been impeccably sourced to reliable sources. It's the most sourced thread on 2p2, I daresay. You are coming close to denial yourself here.

If you have criticisms, then make them, but you're need to criticize actual things that happened rather than what happened in your head.

I was asked for my opinion so i gave it. I didn't want to spend 10 minutes writing out all the things i disagree with Milo about but rather point out that no one knew who he was and most people still don't and I agree the consensus that hes not nice.

none of the other responses are things I want to address because they're stupid. Except I did pay 4 figures to various posters on this site for against donald trump bets and am working for the last little bit . i have always paid my bets

I like you spaceman! Sorry about your losses. It's good to have your opinion as a gay man on this, even if it's just to say you don't like Milo and nobody in the gay community ever heard of him until lately.

How do you feel about the OP, and the apparent alt-right take over of the LGBTQ Nation's poll? Do you have any views on the alt-right/SJW wars?

I wrote that to let off steam. I have a lot of good ideas but haven't shared them yet because its not my business. I could discuss these ideas with someone when im in san francisco in april or when im in vegas in june if someone wants to. Often times My very good ideas are ignored and labeled unserious by people who are mean

A big problem with this forum is it used to be fun and it isn't as fun anymore. It's because a lot of great people left. One of the reasons a lot of great people left is because it became a place that was too difficult for normal people to post in and not worht posting for some really great people.


Also, I 100% don't care about attention on here or from anyone on 2p2 anymore i barely post here anymore or read it myself. Im just sharing my thoughts in a hopefully friendly manner

I haven't read the op. Just to clarify seriously and truly- a couple of 2p2ers don't understand my opinions(which aren't all liberal but mostly I am ) and im not secretly a right winger or anything.

Tooth looked into it and noticed that a lot white people got lynched in the south too so perhaps complaining about the black lynchings were just a little too BLM if you know what I mean. He never did clarify what the white folks were lynched for vs what the black folks were lynched for but I'm sure that doesn't have anything to do with anything.