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01-08-2017 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
what would you do? if you like, i can create a 3rd politics forum for you to control.

100% serious.
Mat, he's actively trying to talk you into shutting this forum down because he's "uncomfortable". He doesn't just want his own safe space in Politics, he wants us to not discuss the topics we are discussing. He doesn't want his own forum. I guarantee it.
01-08-2017 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Uh, huh.

Hey so real recently this forum has had a wee bit of a problem with explicit white supremacists and alt-right posters popping up more often after Trump's election. Like right now we have a thread about existential threat Muslims pose to Western civilization, a thread blaming the spike in Chicago murder rate on black lives matter, this thread about ****ing Milo... The response to this was to mod chezlaw so he could infract people who were mean to those posters, for the sake of "the discourse".


Do you think that makes this forum more or less likely to attract Muslims, blacks, gays, etc.?
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Like Mat, you seem like a decent enough guy, but your bigot questionnaire thread is a great example of precisely this issue.

For you, a 46 year old white guy, the big racial issue in America today is fear that you might get called a mean word because of opinions you hold.

Setting aside that you can always change your opinions, do you think in the age of Jeff Sessions and Steve Bannon in the White House that minorities think about racism in the same way?
i don't know. i don't know how any minority thinks. the only minorities i know are people who feel comfortable in my world. i know my black and hispanic and asian neighbors (all very middle class), but i don't know any minorities living in detroit or the south bronx, etc.

i'm quite sure they have vastly different perspectives, but i don't think i will get them posting on this site through more censorship.


where are they posting now? send me a link and maybe i'll get some idea about how/ if things should change around here.s about politics
01-08-2017 , 01:31 PM
It's amazing that for so many years the conservative bubble is something we've mocked and laughed at. We made fun of Fox news and the idiocy of the right. Now, the liberal bubble is much, much worse because of the sheer size of it. Even after they got the election so laughably, stupidly wrong, they refuse to recognize that maybe there's a bubble around them. Nope, they just need to double down and the result is proof that there is even more racism and bigotry in the world than they realized, and the fight needs to intensify.

This is total and complete idiocy. Only an idiot can hold that type of view, and at this point, liberals are complete and total morons.

Amazing.
01-08-2017 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
i understand. you're saying that he's essentially a woman, so there's no particular reason to take him seriously.
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
wat
lol
01-08-2017 , 02:01 PM
assuming fly is on the right and toothsayer is on the left and my delusion that they are both decent people is not a delusion, i have this to say

01-08-2017 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
assuming fly is on the right and toothsayer is on the left and my delusion that they are both decent people is not a delusion, i have this to say
What would make you think Fly is a "good guy"?

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Originally Posted by FlyWf
The biggest mark against me as a poster is probably that I wasn't quite awful enough to wil to get him to quit posting here, instead he just posted that picture of his ugly child and put me on ignore. Oh well. Can't win 'em all.
He's disgusting.

Last edited by wil318466; 01-08-2017 at 02:40 PM.
01-08-2017 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
it really is. i can speak from the perspective of a 46 year old white guy. that's my perspective. i'm not anonymous, you can easily find my phone numbers and home address on the internet.

i don't know who you are. i'm assuming you are white. but when we have these threads talking about muslims or blacks or gays or whatever, the conversations almost never have somebody identifying as black or muslim....

that makes the conversation much less interesting to me and, yes, is my biggest complaint when talking about these threads with other people.
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
i'm quite sure they have vastly different perspectives, but i don't think i will get them posting on this site through more censorship.


where are they posting now? send me a link and maybe i'll get some idea about how/ if things should change around here.s about politics
I'm really truly gonna try to not be insulting here, but it's really hard to believe you're being sincere here. Like, you've gone out of your way to set up a forum where people spew hate 24/7 and you're wondering why more minorities aren't popping in?

I mean, this is a solved problem for 2p2: you already have a subforum here that's designed to attract women/LGBT posters, and that subforum has tighter moderation with regards to trolling and obnoxious sexism. You can use loaded language like "censorship" to describe it, but it's impossible for me to imagine that you're sincerely interested in attracting people with different perspectives and are totally unsure how to go about doing so.
01-08-2017 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
assuming fly is on the right and toothsayer is on the left ...
If you make that assumption, you should probably not attempt to drive a car.
01-08-2017 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I'm really truly gonna try to not be insulting here, but it's really hard to believe you're being sincere here. Like, you've gone out of your way to set up a forum where people spew hate 24/7 and you're wondering why more minorities aren't popping in?

I mean, this is a solved problem for 2p2: you already have a subforum here that's designed to attract women/LGBT posters, and that subforum has tighter moderation with regards to trolling and obnoxious sexism. You can use loaded language like "censorship" to describe it, but it's impossible for me to imagine that you're sincerely interested in attracting people with different perspectives and are totally unsure how to go about doing so.
Maybe he should sell advertising on Worldstarhiphop?
01-08-2017 , 02:55 PM
I invited a a real sharp muslim lawyer who is an interesting guy to start posting in the main politics forum but he said it was "full of stupid people" The Dan minority outreach failed, sorry guys.
01-08-2017 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I'm really truly gonna try to not be insulting here, but it's really hard to believe you're being sincere here. Like, you've gone out of your way to set up a forum where people spew hate 24/7 and you're wondering why more minorities aren't popping in?
How many minorities are in regular politics, where wookie regularly ban hammers anyone who doesn't admit that Trayvon Martin was 100% in the right, and Zimmerman is a murderer? Do you have any evidence whatsoever that there are more there than here, per capita? I would say more Muslims and black people post here than in regular P.

They aren't people who need to be mollycoddled any more than white people do, and **** you for thinking otherwise, frankly. In fact, I'd think they'd want to engage more here than the boring whitewashed groupthink in regular P. You might be surprised what minorities think and are interested it.

Your attitude is part of the problem. Wil is part Korean I believe and he cops a ton of abuse, including racist abuse, from your pals. Do you think he need mollycoddling by your arrogant, demeaning ass because he's a minority? **** you and racist worldview, frankly.

I also hope the irony isn't lost on your that we're in a thread about a gay right wing icon who's widely celebrated. When was the last time you saw an LGBTQ person the year thread in regular P?

I don't know whether you believe what you post, but it seems like pure fiction with zero basis in reality.

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01-08-2017 , 03:06 PM
100% Korean, btw. No white wife or anything.
01-08-2017 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer
How many minorities are in regular politics, where wookie regularly ban hammers anyone who doesn't admit that Trayvon Martin was 100% in the right, and Zimmerman is a murderer? Do you have any evidence whatsoever that there are more there than here, per capita? I would say more Muslims and black people post here than in regular P.

They aren't people who need to be mollycoddled any more than white people do, and **** you for thinking otherwise, frankly. In fact, I'd think they'd want to engage more here than the boring whitewashed groupthink in regular P. You might be surprised what minorities think and are interested it.

Your attitude is part of the problem. Wil is part Korean I believe and he cops a ton of abuse, including racist abuse, from your pals. Do you think he need mollycoddling by your arrogant, demeaning ass because he's a minority? **** you and racist worldview, frankly.

I also hope the irony isn't lost on your that we're in a thread about a gay right wing icon who's widely celebrated. When was the last time you saw an LGBTQ person the year thread in regular P?

I don't know whether you believe what you post, but it seems like pure fiction with zero basis in reality.
lol, solid argument: neither one of us has a clue what the race, gender or sexual preference of like 95% of the posters here or in the main forum.

Also, solid lol at wil getting "racist abuse" for being Korean. I've never once seen anyone other than you and him giving a ****. Man, you're not even trying anymore.

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01-08-2017 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
lol, solid argument: neither one of us has a clue what the race, gender or sexual preference of like 95% of the posters here or in the main forum.

Also, solid lol at wil getting "racist abuse" for being Korean. I've never once seen anyone other than you and him giving a ****. Man, you're not even trying anymore.
He has a valid argument. If you and fly and kerowo hate this forum so much, why do you post in it so frequently? Leave. Go back to politics and work on that minority outreach, homie.
01-08-2017 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
He has a valid argument. If you and fly and kerowo hate this forum so much, why do you post in it so frequently? Leave. Go back to politics and work on that minority outreach, homie.
I mostly just come in here to watch you throw tantrums, tbqh.
01-08-2017 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I mostly just come in here to watch you throw tantrums, tbqh.
You are a worthless troll who serves no purpose. I can understand why you'd be here so much, the main forum doesn't have enough people left to troll because mrwookie banned everyone.

Enjoy your cesspool. You guys deserve it.
01-08-2017 , 03:33 PM
I thought a feature of anonymous screen names is it doesn't matter if you expose your identities or not. I'm still wondering about all that ongoing.

However it seems a bit of a pickle when some smart-sounding, educated looking group of people go around saying what you are while you are trying to enjoy a feature of it not mattering.
01-08-2017 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I mean, this is a solved problem for 2p2: you already have a subforum here that's designed to attract women/LGBT posters, and that subforum has tighter moderation with regards to trolling and obnoxious sexism. You can use loaded language like "censorship" to describe it, but it's impossible for me to imagine that you're sincerely interested in attracting people with different perspectives and are totally unsure how to go about doing so.
I hope you're not talking about the women in poker forum? That's proceeding at the breakneck speed of about 0.6 posts/day. And for a 50% of the population "minority".
01-08-2017 , 03:41 PM
What are stats lately for posting in this forum vs the main? We are obviously less active right ?
01-08-2017 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
i don't know who you are. i'm assuming you are white. but when we have these threads talking about muslims or blacks or gays or whatever, the conversations almost never have somebody identifying as black or muslim....

that makes the conversation much less interesting to me and, yes, is my biggest complaint when talking about these threads with other people.
I absolutely agree. I hope to turn this into somewhere where at least if people from these demographics wander in then they feel welcome and find its' worth participating.

We have to realsie just how unwelcoming the politcs forums have been and it's not just the extreme speech that was allowed in PU or the fact they're dominated by white men. Anyone who isn't from our main demographic or has loved ones who aren't, is also likely to get called a bigot or racist etc because they dont have the required narrow view of the world.
01-08-2017 , 03:57 PM
Actually if you don't wander in and make bigoted and racist posts, it's fairly unlikely you will be called either.

But you know, facts are optional these days so whatever.
01-08-2017 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I'm really truly gonna try to not be insulting here, but it's really hard to believe you're being sincere here. Like, you've gone out of your way to set up a forum where people spew hate 24/7 and you're wondering why more minorities aren't popping in?

I mean, this is a solved problem for 2p2: you already have a subforum here that's designed to attract women/LGBT posters, and that subforum has tighter moderation with regards to trolling and obnoxious sexism. You can use loaded language like "censorship" to describe it, but it's impossible for me to imagine that you're sincerely interested in attracting people with different perspectives and are totally unsure how to go about doing so.
if people believe this, i give up. please contact mason and encourage him to fire me.
01-08-2017 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
if people believe this, i give up. please contact mason and encourage him to fire me.
See? You recognize the tactics they use?

It's absurdity at every level. The best part is they don't even realize what they are doing is wrong, they have been trained to react that way. End humanity, bring the zombies now.
01-08-2017 , 04:04 PM
well hopefully they will contact mason and he will kill me and everyone will be happy.

btw, regarding the woman's forum: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/18...orums-1647515/
01-08-2017 , 04:07 PM
Why would mason doing anything about it other than maybe giving you a salary increase?

      
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