- There is no fantastic data to use for inference regarding promiscuity differences between men and women. The OKCupid data is kind of decent, but not really. Of course the absurd numbers posted are complete nonsense, and I got a laugh out of the "Wilt Chamberlin of gays" line. Even without great data, one can infer that the levels of promiscuity between heterosexuals and homosexuals is pretty much in line with each other, though I would not fault someone for the claim that at the tail end of the spectrum the most promiscuous of homosexual men are more promiscuous than the most promiscuous heterosexual men. But that is whatever as it is a tiny subset of a population, and such a claim cannot be confidently proclaimed anyhow.

- Lol Milo, get rekt.

and finally:

- I love Diana Ross.

It's not just someone claiming offence, that's a shorthand for very real harm that's done to socially vulnerable groups - stereotyping does that harm for example. We have a thread to talk about PC if you want.

Sure, I could especially believe in SF before AIDS was discovered that there was a subset of extremely promiscuous gay men. But, to infer that in 2017 that gay men on average have 50+ partners in their lives and a very large portion have over 1000 is literally insane. He has doubled down on this like 20 times.

Tops my entire poo thread.

All I know is I was at Club Berlin in Chicago awhile back for my gay ladyfriend's birthday party and this college kid was hitting on me something fierce.

Now, using some wilogic I still can't say All Gay Men, but I can definitely say undergrads from DePaul are all horny little devils, to a man.

I believe you are being unfair in your decision here, chez. It's simply a discussion, one where ive said, repeatedly, that I am making an observation, which was then backed up by opinion by multiple people of that group.

I have no issue with what you're actually trying to accomplish, a place for discussion. That is obviously not what is happening. Just as I'm not condoning pedophilia by saying I would have loved to have had sex with an older woman when I was 14, I am not denegrating gay men by saying they seem to have more fun than others.

We disagree, and it's a serious problem we face in our society today. Without honesty, no issue can truly be discussed, and things get worse, not better.

Mark my words, it'll lead to something catastrophic one day. I only pray I'm wrong.

Gays hit on me in bars when I start talking philosophy.

Wil, when you say "most gay men have over 1000 partners" the inference isn't that "gay men have more fun."

Yeah that is certainly patently absurd.

I am just saying that based on the OKCupid data, one can make the statement that "Homosexuals are TWICE as likely to have had more than 20 sexual partners than heterosexuals!" and be correct. Or using other data to isolate for specifically homosexual men, one could state "Homosexual men are anywhere from 2 to 4 times more likely to have had more than 20 sexual partners than heterosexuals!" and be correct (Or at least as correct as the OKCupid data coming in is to begin with.)

Hence why I would not specifically fault someone if they asserted that at the extremes, promiscuous homosexuals are more promiscuous than heterosexuals. But as I said, that does not account for the population as a whole and therefore is not a good takeaway unless explicitly explained as such.

I prefer po(A)sters flaunt their own ignorance, but that's just my view. I think the dumbest po(A)st I did was a dumb question about wwii. You could argue no dumb question theory, but lol.

Perhaps a dumb post thread where we lol.

Wil is not capable of these kind of arguments and these kind of arguments wouldn't have me labeling the person using them as homophobic as I am sure Wil is.
With the online "dating" community and sites like grindr, there definitely is the stereotype that gay men use online dating as a hookup service. But, this thing called tinder exists that everyone uses as a hookup service.

Maybe, but from my experience at the extreme ends straight people can manage to be incredibly promiscuous as well.

On that end I can only attest to my poor success with Tinder and my gay buddies great success with Grindr, though he is much better looking than myself so I can't place any blame on a whole community for that stat

Einbert,

I am just referencing the data available from a different perspective, there is no maybe it is just what the data says, anecdotes be damned like most things.

I appreciate we disagree and you think it's unfair. There's certainly a bias on my part - that's in the rules.

The pros and cons of PC are worth discussing but in the PC thread please.

Lol at the
Christian right
Lol
Her derp catastrophy.

Derping it up!

That's fair enough and I don't find your conclusion offensive or harmful like I did wil's. But like you said, conclusions drawn from data are only as good as the data in the first place, and I really don't think we have that much solid data on this issue.

I'm kind of worried this could be good for Milo. Like, I can't imagine how he benefits from this but

1) Professional internet troll gets attention
2)?????
3) Profit

seems like what usually happens

He's gone too far this time. His hateful speech is usually aimed at undocumented people, transgender people, and other easy targets for the right. But with this last debacle, white kids are the ones that are vulnerable and open to abuse. This is where it hits too close to home with a lot of his fan base and you can already see that with his book deal being canceled. The sad thing is that they didn't care about any of the other groups he was attacking before this.

He's not done, but this is a major blow. He could never work for a mainstream site. If you're blacklisted by every book company, twitter and brietbart...you're a facebook ban away from only having youtube and tumblr as any sort of social presence.

He starts hawking Brain Force pills for InfoWars--but he never returns to his former glory.

Milo has been smiling ear to ear last 2 weeks.

He has a book out which is where he is making his money.

Any controversy or media that gets his name out there = moar money.


This dude is 100% professional troll. He's just a persona, nothing more, nothing less, and we spend countless hours talking literally about nothing.

People should have just let this troll speak to the hundreds of college kids. Now the "dangerous" monster just grows larger.

Simon and Schuster dumped his book. Going forward he will have to find alternative publishers and such and lose out on potential revenue. Not to mention if Breibart doesn't fire him, he will likely be leashed. Though lol Breibart leashes.

Yes, you actually are. Regardless of what you felt as a 14 year old you could not give consent to have sex.

Book got canceled bro.