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Originally Posted by FlyWf
I already know what's leading to the disagreements, though.
I don't know why I keep trying to talk to you but I'm an optimist by nature.
The problem is that you failed to recognize that my 'standard reactionary line' is basically the same as the arguments coming from people who you would consider part of your tribe.
There are 3 basic arguments wrt the wage gap:
1. Women are paid $.79 for every dollar a man makes (implicit in this is that this is due to discrimination)
2. Adjusting for choices women make there is a $.06 wage gap that hasn't been explained
3. There is no wage gap
The only reasonable place to stand is in group #2. What is happening in this and in basically every argument is that when I argue against group #1, you map me onto group #3 and from there assume that it must be due to some deep moral failing.
Even though I disagree with people in group #3, they are not moral monsters. They just recognize that the arguments coming from group #1 are incorrect and so make a leap that it all must be bull****. The same thing is happening to people from group #1 from the other side.
This is why honest conversation is so important. Dishonesty ends up being so polarizing. It also helps to recognize the vast majority of people are generally good.