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06-22-2017 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
You mean he'll discuss "“nonspecific, noncredible” threats. Nothing to see here.
Threats that shut down a campus. But it's okay because they were made against liberals.
06-22-2017 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Threats that shut down a campus. But it's okay because they were made against liberals.
You mean like kids who call in bomb threats to skip tests. Yeah.

I noticed James Hodgkinson didn't call in any threats. Could it be because those who actually try to do harm don't telegraph themselves? Hmmmmm.....but, but, but - muh victimhood!
06-22-2017 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
You mean like kids who call in bomb threats to skip tests. Yeah.

I noticed James Hodgkinson didn't call in any threats. Could it be because those who actually try to do harm don't telegraph themselves? Hmmmmm.....but, but, but - muh victimhood!
Jiggy just excused every liberal that's ever made a threat to shut down a conservative event, all because he just couldn't stop himself from defending whoever threatened 13ball's liberal professors. Amazing how hard these people own themselves.
06-22-2017 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
You mean like kids who call in bomb threats to skip tests. Yeah.

I noticed James Hodgkinson didn't call in any threats. Could it be because those who actually try to do harm don't telegraph themselves? Hmmmmm.....but, but, but - muh victimhood!
Jiggy is defending death threats.

But liberals are the real problem, everyone!
06-22-2017 , 01:37 PM
Classical libtard argument. Equating words to actions so therefore they can justify their violence upon our opponents.

If you can't see the difference from calling in a threat to pull a fire alarm and actually pulling one, I don't believe I can help you.

Perhaps you two should go back to coloring books, I don't believe the internet is the safespace you're looking for.
06-22-2017 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
Classical libtard argument. Equating words to actions so therefore they can justify their violence upon our opponents.

If you can't see the difference from calling in a threat to pull a fire alarm and actually pulling one, I don't believe I can help you.
Isn't calling in a threat of some kind (words, not actions) the single most common way an event is shut down? Who pulls fire alarms?

Also did you just call pulling a fire alarm "violence"? LOL
06-22-2017 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
Equating words to actions so therefore they can justify their violence upon our opponents.
This sounds like a reasonably close approximation to how I'd describe using an opposition to elements of Islamic belief as justification for treating all Muslims as if they were potential terrorists. Which is usually what triggers accusations of "islamaphobia".
06-22-2017 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
Classical libtard argument. Equating words to actions so therefore they can justify their violence upon our opponents.
I didn't justify violence. You are lying.

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If you can't see the difference from calling in a threat to pull a fire alarm and actually pulling one, I don't believe I can help you.
A death threat is a harmful act. Actually killing someone is much, much worse. You are trying to argue that a death threat shouldn't be a crime. That's stupid.

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Perhaps you two should go back to coloring books, I don't believe the internet is the safespace you're looking for.
lol
06-22-2017 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
This sounds like a reasonably close approximation to how I'd describe using an opposition to elements of Islamic belief as justification for treating all Muslims as if they were potential terrorists. Which is usually what triggers accusations of "islamaphobia".
Just want to treat terrorists as terrorist - which is includes holding 'radicalizers' to account. #NotAllMuslims

As for fire alarms, I thought these liberal protest events were common knowledge -



06-22-2017 , 02:17 PM
You don't appear to know how to post Youtube videos correctly, but if those contain what you appear to describe them containing, I don't know how you could post such savage violence outside of spoiler tags! Think of the children, won't you? Videos of fire alarms going off might disturb them!
06-22-2017 , 02:18 PM
But anyway, it's good to know that Jiggy excuses whoever threatened the Evergreen campus as probably just wanting to skip school and they definitely weren't ever going to harm anyone. As he says, the only reasonable conclusion about that is:

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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
Nothing to see here.
06-22-2017 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
But anyway, it's good to know that Jiggy excuses whoever threatened the Evergreen campus as probably just wanting to skip school and they definitely weren't ever going to harm anyone. As he says, the only reasonable conclusion about that is:
Did you hit all the stupid branches when you fell out of the dumb ass tree?

Did you see the children setting up shop in the President's office then demanding that their teachers be informed that homework wouldn't be turned in on time? LOL!!!

Evergreen College SJW Students Demand No Homework


They should all be flunked out immediately.

Last edited by JiggyMac; 06-22-2017 at 02:40 PM.
06-22-2017 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMadcap
Yes.
I say no. Because that would be like fearing sweat or fearing fiction.
06-22-2017 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
Clear and present, huh?

You must have been ecstatic when we pulled out of the Paris Climate Accords then. Cool.
Are you suggesting that fear is the sole impetus behind environmentalism?
06-22-2017 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
Did you hit all the stupid branches when you fell out of the dumb ass tree?
- signed, the guy who can't figure out posting youtube videos

Did you click the link, by the way? Someone called the campus with a threat and that's why they closed it down. You're saying that's "nothing to see here"!
06-22-2017 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Are you suggesting that fear is the sole impetus behind environmentalism?
Do you ever take a position or just ask rhetorical questions?

Do you think there is only one impetus behind environmentalism? Do you believe it is a religion of purely altruistic motives?
06-22-2017 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Did you click the link, by the way? Someone called the campus with a threat and that's why they closed it down. You're saying that's "nothing to see here"!
I do remember that guy shooting up Evergreen. So tragic. All of those young lives lost. Oh wait, no that didn't happen.

But he was caught because there was an imminent threat. I mean, they knew where he was and I'm glad that radicalized crazy was caught and brought to justice. And man, that trial was short. Oh no, wait, that didn't happen either.

But....there was nothing to see here because there was nothing to see here. Yup, that's what happened.
06-22-2017 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
Do you ever take a position or just ask rhetorical questions?

Do you think there is only one impetus behind environmentalism? Do you believe it is a religion of purely altruistic motives?
Oh yeah, I forgot for a minute you are just here to play games.
06-22-2017 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
I don't think the term "Islamaphobia" is intended to refer to merely strong disagreement or aversion to specific dogmas or practices of various Muslim groups or governments. I would be absolutely opposed to the US government adopting policies like Saudi Arabia, but I'm not very worried about it happening. I am worried about and strongly opposed to ISIS, and I worry about ongoing problems with radical Islamist groups and tensions related to refugees from various countries. None of those things make me "Islamaphobic" imo, but when people use the term I don't believe that is what they are claiming.

Instead, they are usually using the term to refer to responses to the above problems that are over-generalized, irrational, or otherwise unnecessarily and harmfully prejudicial. There can definitely be a debate about what sort of responses qualify, and which don't, but imo the fact that many Muslims for example support laws involving homosexuality which are bigoted is neither here nor there with regard to the question of Islamaphobia. One can strongly oppose those laws and that specific element of Islamic practice without being Islamaphobic, but one can also be opposed in a way that is Islamaphobic, and it really comes down to how specifically you respond and what actions you try to justify.
Islamophobia makes more sense to me when it is applied to fears towards specific Islamic dogmas. I feel like it became a problem when it started to be applied to racial prejudice. Now you have a word that clearly breaks down to "fear of Islam" meaning something else.

I'm getting cynical about this stuff and am starting to believe these moves are not exactly done by accident. If a person broadens the definition of these terms that carry a social cost to them (racist/islamophobe/misogynist), they can try to control the dialogue by threatening to tarnish dissenters by misapplying these terms. Maybe it's not done here with the word islamophobic but it's done with racist/white supremacist all the time.

I'm glad Evergreen was brought up because that's exactly what was done to that professor. Some students wanted to kick white people off campus for a day, the professor said "wtf, no" and the place goes insane.

(The guy who called in a death threat after this all happened was obviously in the wrong as well and probably had psychological issues. But that doesn't take away from the real weirdness that is happening within some elements of the left)

Another part of this is the fact that it's actually good to have words that have this power. We want actual racists to not do or say racist things for fear of being called a racist but the labels will start to lose their meaning if half of Trump supporters start being called deplorable or worse.

It seems like we all need to decide that misapplying these labels should also carry a pretty heavy social cost.
06-22-2017 , 09:17 PM
Wow I can't believe Queen Discourse over here happens to have some ****ing hot takes on

1) Not calling anything racist

2) But seriously guys Islam is an existential threat to civilization
06-22-2017 , 09:50 PM
Oh Hai bud!!!! It's good to see you again!
06-22-2017 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMadcap
Islamophobia makes more sense to me when it is applied to fears towards specific Islamic dogmas. I feel like it became a problem when it started to be applied to racial prejudice. Now you have a word that clearly breaks down to "fear of Islam" meaning something else.

I'm getting cynical about this stuff and am starting to believe these moves are not exactly done by accident. If a person broadens the definition of these terms that carry a social cost to them (racist/islamophobe/misogynist), they can try to control the dialogue by threatening to tarnish dissenters by misapplying these terms. Maybe it's not done here with the word islamophobic but it's done with racist/white supremacist all the time.

I'm glad Evergreen was brought up because that's exactly what was done to that professor. Some students wanted to kick white people off campus for a day, the professor said "wtf, no" and the place goes insane.

(The guy who called in a death threat after this all happened was obviously in the wrong as well and probably had psychological issues. But that doesn't take away from the real weirdness that is happening within some elements of the left)

Another part of this is the fact that it's actually good to have words that have this power. We want actual racists to not do or say racist things for fear of being called a racist but the labels will start to lose their meaning if half of Trump supporters start being called deplorable or worse.

It seems like we all need to decide that misapplying these labels should also carry a pretty heavy social cost.
I really don't that that's ever the case because even racists seem to really desire to not be called racists, hence "race realists", "alt-light", etc. It more seems like the condoning of racism seems to draw more open expressions of racism more than the word racist though obviously more racist things are going to correlate with things being called racist more often.
06-22-2017 , 10:05 PM
Lol...

This whole thing started because JiffyPop said Islamophobia is a 'fantasy creature' like 'a dragon'.

Wait let me rain check this, it's almost too stupid to describe.
06-22-2017 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
Did you hit all the stupid branches when you fell out of the dumb ass tree?

Did you see the children setting up shop in the President's office then demanding that their teachers be informed that homework wouldn't be turned in on time? LOL!!!

Evergreen College SJW Students Demand No Homework


They should all be flunked out immediately.
Lol, an Evergreen truther. You have absolutely no idea what the conflict on that campus is about do you? Perchance did you ever read the initial email?
06-22-2017 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMadcap
I'm glad Evergreen was brought up because that's exactly what was done to that professor. Some students wanted to kick white people off campus for a day, the professor said "wtf, no" and the place goes insane.
So you also didn't read the initial email. Trying actually learning a out what you are talking about before spouting off nonsense. For example, the bold never happened.

      
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