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04-29-2017 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Typical Trumpkin at Transylvania University in Kentucky attacks other students with a machete because he thinks they shouldn't be free to criticize his political views.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcne...achete-n752731
This has already been posted. Sorry to ruin your gotcha! Moment lol.
04-29-2017 , 11:35 AM
We don't protest racism in Japan mostly because we're not in Japan. The weird thing about conservatives is they insist we're so great, but balk at being held to a higher standard.
04-29-2017 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
This has already been posted. Sorry to ruin your gotcha! Moment lol.
Do you mind? Don't you enjoy rereading stories about attacking liberals with a machete?
04-29-2017 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
It's unlikely anyone is going to like this answer. WWII is obviously the event which most influenced modern thinking on racism, in particular the Holocaust, but also the ideology articulated by the Nazis which clearly had a broader application than just the Jews.

But there was a parallel mass ethnicity/nationality destruction project being executed by Japan at the time which was every bit as brutal. You can read about this in wikipedia or wherever. It's no secret, but it has received almost no attention relative to the Holocaust. Why it's been pretty much ignored by the mass media here is a difficult question to answer. By all rights there should have been a Nuremberg style reckoning for the Japanese leaders after WWII. There wasn't. Our government protected those butchers for reasons which are debated. There are also implications there as for why the North/South Korea situation played out as it did, so it's an interesting topic but a little advanced. Anyway the short answer is Japan came out smelling OK after the WWII due to efforts of the U.S. government and it's propaganda. We don't associate them with a history of racism or ethnic cleansing as we should. And so we don't look at them through the same lens as we do Western countries.



Two points here. One is that an all white state means conversion of the state to all white. That means an abridgement of rights even more fundamental than free speech and which make free speech possible, and so it represents an instant contradiction.

Second point is that when right wing racists say they want free speech what they actually mean is that they want a safe space to advance racial hatred. They want to be "free" from the critical free speech of others. Like they want to be able to say "black people suck" and "jews are evil" in public without losing their jobs. So when they say free speech they mean an abridgement of the speech of those who don't agree with them. They keep putting it that way because the difference between what they mean by free speech and actual free speech is too subtle to be understood by people like you.
Interesting post.

The hypocricy on the left is so blatant yet people refuse to acknowledge it.

There is so much discussion from the left of all the horrific things the nazis did. There is little to no discussion from the left of the horrible things the radical islamic terrorists are doing. They have also ignored my question about Japan. Why is this? I believe the radical liberals know only what they have been taught. I don't think they have the capacity or want to explore other possibilities. I don't believe they know how to critically think. There is a big difference between knowing something and having intellectual intelligence. Radical libs love to google/read/regurgatate in an attempt to show how smart they are. They also tend to hold onto what they have been taught to believe. They hold on so tightly that thry don't even know what they are holding onto. What they do know is it feels familiar and that's comforting to them.

Thanks for your response.
04-29-2017 , 11:54 AM
Lol. Why not just say you're pissed because you think liberals won't criticize anyone but white people?
04-29-2017 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
That's interesting but highly dubious coming from you. Where are you getting that from? I know a few Marxists. All we do is argue about ****.
mapping personality traits on to political views is research being conducted extensively in the personality psychology field. not only are they collecting data independently , but you can google big 5 personality test and take a basic one online. guess what happens after youre done the test? yes they give you the results but before that, they also ask you to answer some brief political questions before they provide results. millions of data points are being collected with various methods. im assuming you are asking me out of curiosity vs just hopelessly tying to confirm you are right about everything, so you're welcome

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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
I feel like you are trying to smear leftists as weak and not manly. I think that idea has some currency in popular culture. However, it always seems that in reality it's the extreme right wingers who you find out like to dress up like women or go toe tapping in men's bathrooms.
let me clear this up for you, yes i am clearly trying to help you understand that generally the far left is occupied by what we traditionally call beta males. this is being confirmed over and over again by millions of data points with various testing methods by experts in the field of personality psychology

biased people like to cry about how somehow anything negative towards one group or individual is mean or unfair. the problem with this conclusion is that we are talking about balance here. specifically the far left. on the flip side of that you get people with personalities on the far right, and guess what? yes they are very problematic also. since this forum is full of people on the far left who probably don't even understand they are illiberal and there is no debate that the far right is a disaster, i end up criticizing the far left. pay attention to the how little i use the term liberal. i spend little to no time criticizing actual liberals. also you dont get to just decide you are a liberal while behaving far left

on the topic of "toe tapping". i think that is called homosexual behavior and im not sure how that is relevant. i haven't paid any attention to the concept of sexual preference and political views but my guess is that they fall on both sides of the political spectrum with the vast majority voting for the party that pursues their agenda the best. we all know what that party is, the party that sees them as a vulnerable group even though we now have equal rights, we don't have equality
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
Mothers can be very violent when their children are threatened. You see that in nature all the time. So you could, using the same bloviation, say that violence is maternal. I'm trying to show you how, without a solid empirical basis, you can make literally any claim.



Actually this younger generation is lower in empathy. But let me know your source we can have a citation battle. And what do you think coddling has to do with promoting empathy?



But you know who really doesn't understand empathy?

Animals.

We cooperate with each other. We extend our empathy for other humans beyond our immediately family. Empathy is why we don't live like animals, ultimately the only reason we don't live like animals.
you don't understand empathy judging by your comments. i suggest you do your own research. i gave people a snapshot example of bears so the open minded and intelligent people reading this could begin to grasp the main point that empathy by itself is not a virtue. it can actually be (and often is) the very root cause of violent and dangerous behavior

you are right that animals don't understand empathy. they have empathy. thats why mothers will rip you to pieces in just in case you are a threat to their cub vs a male bear who would have already eaten the same cub prior to your arrival. thats how empathy can and does work. if you cant begin to understand that and want to, you're on your own. go figure it out if youre still curious, im not going to argue with you about it

categorizing a generation as empathetic or not is far too general to rebut my point. a safe space generation is dominated by women and men on the far left who are apart of the most coddled generation in the history of the planet. in order to have a safe space on campus you need to be an actual college student or work there. both the students and staff have moved farther and farther left on campuses. this is just indisputable. research shows that there more women than men in college now (agreeableness-maternal-empathy). studies also show that the ratio of professors going from conservative to "liberal" has shifted dramatically left over the past few decades. i realize that you hadn't thought through your empathetic generation comment before making it, but now that i've helped you do that im sure you will concede since you are obviously open minded and unbiased

in addition to all of this, its the very first facebook/social media generation. theres now a massive part of a generations social life/status that creates a reward system for being empathetic and virtuous
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Originally Posted by mongidig
How come people don't protest Japan for being racist?

How is it not possible to support free speech and want an all white state?
why are you responding and/or defensive about some white nationalists tweets. the pointing towards some irrelevant fringe weirdos tweet is a pathetic response to organized political groups shutting down free speech with violence. other than the aspect of free speech, why would you defend him? i mean these people are fringe and irrelevant. they aren't out in mass protest or even really relevant. theyre people who voice their weird ideas and none of them are ever going to be relevant.

i see people on here get defensive about truly repulsive political movements such as communism or this anitfa group attacking free speech through violence. any true liberal would not be defending those things or defensive. just like any sane conservative doesn't feel like they need to defend white nationalists

hopefully you're just making a free speech argument
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Originally Posted by microbet
Do you mind? Don't you enjoy rereading stories about attacking liberals with a machete?
this is just so incredibly dumb. after every terrorist attack... but but but, its not all.... and then before they finish their sentence theres another terrorist attack

ok theres loons on the far right with a machete that pop up once in a while. i think its far more accurate to say thats an individual with a mental health disorder than a political movement or agenda. antifa on the other hand is an organized political movement that are actively shutting down conservatives (and not the white nationalists being tweeted here) free speech at campuses through violence. you can't seriously be conflating the two can you?

Last edited by juan valdez; 04-29-2017 at 01:09 PM.
04-29-2017 , 01:33 PM
"mental health disorder"

Your empathy shows up!
04-29-2017 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
"mental health disorder"

Your empathy shows up!
what?

so now a random nutjuob attacking women with a machete on their own is some sort of political movement or a "trumpkin"? what?

its not a mental health disorder?

things the far left defend should actually be its own thread. things the far left on this forum defend should be an additional thread. so weird

even bernie sanders gets it
04-29-2017 , 01:58 PM
He asked what people's political affiliations were and told Republicans that they were ok.

He was exactly like the violent Islamists who ask people to recite something from the Koran to decide who to kill.

This guy? You are keen to show your empathy here. This guy needs some mental health treatment. We need to make sure this kind of person isn't adversely affected by cuts in funding for mental health treatment!

Last edited by microbet; 04-29-2017 at 02:04 PM.
04-29-2017 , 02:18 PM
*lol i should have quoted you before the edit. the original post was far more ridiculous

so you cant differentiate between thousands of terrorist attacks in the name of a holy book that 1.6 billion people believe is from a god and that have spawned actual organized armies like isis and al qaeda and then some actual nut job with a machete acting in the name of... himself.... and within the organization of.... himself..... and following the beliefs.... he created on his own

how confused can you possibly be? if this was a repeated crime committed by an organization like the kkk you could make the argument its not some weirdo with a mental health problem, you could call it a kkk problem. this is a weirdo with a machete, to attribute it to anything else is just plain delusional. its like if some girl fabricates a rape story and is walking around with a mattress tied to her back like a total loon, you don't get to attach it to some political movement or leader you don't like. thats just a loon acting on their own

i can't actually believe this needs to be explained to people in 2017
04-29-2017 , 03:17 PM
Wrong. Standard Trumpkin. Read mongidig's posts.

Mongodig, what's the appropriate punishment for treason?

Connect the dots.
04-29-2017 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by superslug
Im basing my opinion of footage from journalists covering the event and trying to interview people. In the footage I saw those there for the free speech event were open to talking , those from antifa weren't.
was the "free speech" side the guys who descended on berkley from hundreds of miles and a few states away after circulating step by step instructions on how to fabricate weapons that would elude the notice of authorities and then savagely attacked the ppl with different views than theirs and then bragged about their violence afterwards?
04-29-2017 , 03:31 PM
Everyone: it's Berkeley, not Berkley.
04-29-2017 , 03:38 PM
I guess the Seattle Trumpkin who shot a protestor is more typical. Guns are more the weapon of choice. 2A should apply to machetes though didn't it?
04-29-2017 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Interesting post.

The hypocricy on the left is so blatant yet people refuse to acknowledge it.

There is so much discussion from the left of all the horrific things the nazis did. There is little to no discussion from the left of the horrible things the radical islamic terrorists are doing. They have also ignored my question about Japan. Why is this? I believe the radical liberals know only what they have been taught. I don't think they have the capacity or want to explore other possibilities. I don't believe they know how to critically think. There is a big difference between knowing something and having intellectual intelligence. Radical libs love to google/read/regurgatate in an attempt to show how smart they are. They also tend to hold onto what they have been taught to believe. They hold on so tightly that thry don't even know what they are holding onto. What they do know is it feels familiar and that's comforting to them.

Thanks for your response.
Nobody's commenting on Japan because nobody was having a discussion about Japan. Japan has a history of racism, as do most places come to think of it.

Or do you just want to talk about Japan because it takes the focus away from your inability to understand that just maybe forcibly removing all the non-whites would involve taking their freedom away?

As a hint, it's that last part that might be why people think you might be slightly racist.
04-29-2017 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
I don't think you should be arrested, tried, and convicted of a crime for making these posts. That's how strongly I believe in free speech!
thats quite a performance. I mean, no way is that dude for real. like, he cant be sincere. I actually think he is a leftie and that is just nth level satire. bravo mongo!
04-29-2017 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez


let me clear this up for you, yes i am clearly trying to help you understand that generally the far left is occupied by what we traditionally call beta males. this is being confirmed over and over again by millions of data points with various testing methods by experts in the field of personality psychology


lol this is hilarious. the right is full of ppl that are absolutely petrified of ppl that look slightly different but its the left that are "betas". gimme a break man.

I mean, have you ever heard a republican convention or rally? its just an inundation of fear.

and ya, I would love to see these "millions of data points."

you are so totally full of sht and it is quite obv.
04-29-2017 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
you are right that animals don't understand empathy. they have empathy. thats why mothers will rip you to pieces in just in case you are a threat to their cub vs a male bear who would have already eaten the same cub prior to your arrival. thats how empathy can and does work. if you cant begin to understand that and want to, you're on your own. go figure it out if youre still curious, im not going to argue with you about it
If you don't understand that this isn't proof of empathy you probably shouldn't be discussing animal behaviour. Or people behaviour.
04-29-2017 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
lol this is hilarious. the right is full of ppl that are absolutely petrified of ppl that look slightly different but its the left that are "betas". gimme a break man.

I mean, have you ever heard a republican convention or rally? its just an inundation of fear.

and ya, I would love to see these "millions of data points."

you are so totally full of sht and it is quite obv.
He said a while back beta cuck porn was most popular in the south. I asked how that fit in his "leftists beta theory" but no answer.
04-29-2017 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
He said a while back beta cuck porn was most popular in the south. I asked how that fit in his "leftists beta theory" but no answer.
oh look the bat signal went out again lol. it feels like i have a 1 member fan club until jalfrezi shows up. did someone forget to tell him i said the m word

did i attach some claim that i knew the temperment or political views of participants in cuck? anyways, i already answered this. taboo


i would also like to note the absurdity of the poster and post count correlation. it seems like once you reach 20k posts, the odds of you becoming detached from reality skyrocket

millions of data points....
https://www.truity.com/test/big-five-personality-test
04-29-2017 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladesman87
If you don't understand that this isn't proof of empathy you probably shouldn't be discussing animal behaviour. Or people behaviour.
ok i'll pass that along to the entire field on behalf of bladesman87 of 2p2 fame and glory
04-29-2017 , 05:52 PM
Cite on bears having empathy then?
04-29-2017 , 05:53 PM
And just to preempt, you're going to find some stuff, but it's a controversial idea.

You've also chosen a really crappy example to try and show what empathy is.
04-29-2017 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
oh look the bat signal went out again lol. it feels like i have a 1 member fan club until jalfrezi shows up. did someone forget to tell him i said the m word
Not really a fan of wondering walls of text but not many posters post here.

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did i attach some claim that i knew the temperment or political views of participants in cuck? anyways, i already answered this. taboo
Trump supporters like beta cuck porn because its a taboo? Ok.

I thought they were just showing their inner wishes and desires. And their overcompensating peacocking alpha stuff was a tell since alpha are mostly not wordy and are more then silent and deadly type.

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i would also like to note the absurdity of the poster and post count correlation. it seems like once you reach 20k posts, the odds of you becoming detached from reality skyrocket

millions of data points....
https://www.truity.com/test/big-five-personality-test
Post count talk. cool.

Last edited by batair; 04-29-2017 at 06:22 PM.
04-29-2017 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
There is so much discussion from the left of all the horrific things the nazis did.
This is because the far right in this country loves the Nazis-and Trump. Seems relevant. Maybe if some neo-Japanese imperialists start sending Rape of Nanking memes to Chinese-American politicians there might be more of an outcry.

      
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