We went to the same wiki Chez. I believe you are correct but Lilu can hash it out with David.

Not today he can't

Thanks for the response, good post. The question for me is are his debate opponents up to the task of convincing Republican primary voters that their ideas are better via intelligent answers/presentations? It seems to me that if the Republican primary voters are dominated by a bunch of clueless idiots then intelligent, well thought out arguments in resolving complex issues will be completely lost on them.

I've been making the case in a round about way that many of Trump's opponents are actually not up to the task of at least presenting cogent arguments on the complex issues you refer to in order to contrast Trump positions. Jeb Bush would be one of those opponents that are not capable, Rick Perry is another. Chris Christie, John Kasich, and Carly Fiorina could do that I think but I'm not sure any of them are in the upcoming debate.

Lilu7 is a confirmed douche and troll.

Interesting, thanks.

I see that now. Where is he going HAM? P/PU?

Dunno

I've noticed an assumption among conservatives that Obama gets away with a lot because he's black, and they feel any criticism of him is or will somehow be interpreted as racist. Regardless of the merit, that idea tilts them to no end and so they get extra mad about Obama care and border control policy, among other things. A guy like Trump just saying **** it and criticizing those policies without filters turns them on, even if it is over the top and racist.

Sorry missed you're post before. Being about pornography was so vastly superior that I had to check.

Oh the irony if PC causes President Trump.

Can we blame the loony tunes who devalue the concept of racism so much? Don't believe it but we can do it anyway can't we?

I think everyone should stop and realize that Trump's number are extremely deceptive for a very simple reason that is rarely mentioned. Which is that you are either pro Trump or anti Trump. And 75% are anti. But those 75% are presently split 15 ways. Except for maybe Rand Paul, they would almost all get behind Trump's eventual lone opponent as things stand now.

Does anyone here think he has a real chance?

Judging by all the metrics everyone comes up with, there will not be a republican candidate for president.

Does anyone even think it more than a long shot that he will be the republican candidate?

This is the same explanation I surmise for years re: why Fox News ratings are highest ... Avid cons don't seem to let that register.

Not really.

But I do enjoy watching the racist rats scurry out from hiding to follow their newly found Pied Piper.

If he hires some tutors and does what they say he might.

You on the payroll (yet)?

Zero chance, imo. There are probably 60% of Americans who would never vote for Trump. They consider him a cartoon character. Even if he started acting like a poltician, who's going to forget in a year who he is and what he's said? His bad hair and outrageous lack of self awareness? He's a meglomaniac, he's an atheist who worships money above all else, he's Mr. Burns. US voters will forgive a poor speaker like GWB because he was a good politician whom many could relate to, but not a souless .01 percenter clown like Trump. It will be hilarious if he doesn't already know this.

Has this Presidential foray helped or hurt his net worth? Sponsor's bailing on him is well known but all this publicity has to be worth something.

Yeah I think it's clear that he's unelectable despite his deceivingly high polling numbers atm. That's why I can't take anyone seriously (including him) who claims that he's "in it to win it," because if that was sincerely true it would merely demonstrate that he's in total denial and detached from reality. There's a reason that the last two Republican nominees were moderates as far as their party affiliation goes. Republicans are only going to nominate someone who stands a chance of fulfilling the ultimate goal, which is beating the Democrat nominee for president.

Which to me is even more damning for those who currently support him, because it means that not only are they willing to put a clown in the Oval Office, but that they haven't even bothered to think 1 step ahead since the rest of the Republican primary voters won't let him win the nomination. All the support that he currently enjoys is futile but his supporters don't realize that they're wasting their time.

What if they aren't though?

k, couple things...

Trump is not atheist

W was not a good politician

I don't know if Trump is literally an atheist, and I don't think there's anything wrong with atheism. The comment was meant to condemn his love of material things. And GWB was an excellent politician.