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CNN producer admits his own network is fake news CNN producer admits his own network is fake news

06-29-2017 , 03:36 AM
It's still a nothing burger goofy. Like I've been telling you for a long time.

You should listen to me. I keep getting proved right time and time again.
06-29-2017 , 03:45 AM
Even trump says its stopping him from getting done what he wants so thats something...
06-29-2017 , 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
It's still a nothing burger goofy. Like I've been telling you for a long time.

You should listen to me. I keep getting proved right time and time again.
You got so embarrassed in the Comey thread when it was revealed Trump was under investigation by Mueller that you stopped posting in it.

And did you notice how, by saying in his Fox interview that his "tapes" tweet was successful 5D genius intended to make Comey tell the truth, he accidentally confirmed that Comey's Senate testimony (including all the stuff about Trump's lies and leaning on him) was accurate?

President under criminal investigation by a special prosecutor = "nothingburger" LMAO
06-29-2017 , 05:38 AM
06-29-2017 , 06:39 AM
06-29-2017 , 09:13 AM
What is Fake News?

06-29-2017 , 10:56 AM
ahahha i watched that

lol
06-29-2017 , 10:57 AM
So you people don't know what 'News' means huh?

What a wild time to be alive.
06-29-2017 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
It's still a nothing burger goofy. Like I've been telling you for a long time.

You should listen to me. I keep getting proved right time and time again.
Wait until you see what my investigator colleagues in Russia come back with. We can't even believe what their finding.
06-29-2017 , 01:08 PM
Campaign manager being paid $17 million to put a pro-Russia party in power in the Ukraine is a nothingburger these days. Manafort was just the Trump campaign manager, its not like Trump really had anything to with the guy. Sick and tired of all the damn liberals saying the campaign manager of the Trump campaign had anything to do with the Trump campaign. That's just absurd!
06-29-2017 , 04:00 PM
Fake news is news which is somehow fake. A sitcom set in a newsroom would contain fake news, that is whatever news which is scripted for the sitcom.

Fake fake news is like when trump calls news "fake news" because he can't handle it's not fake and calling it fake is a every easy thing to do.

"fake news" is an artificial term, more recently used as an excuse by republicans and conservatives to avoid responsibility for what ever is the news they can't handle.
06-29-2017 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
There was a period before the debasing effects of state capitalism were able to take hold in earnest. There used to be a lot of different outlets as well as a demand for substance. But what capitalism does to markets is consolidate ownership within industries and orient products or product associations toward more base human impulses, like fear and sex. So now you have CNN breaking coverage of something substantial in order to cover Justin Berber's latest temper tantrum. Money which once went to foreign bureaus was re-routed into hyping fear campaigns of shark attacks and Afrincanized bees (my personal favorite).
Actually, I think it's less the consolidation of media and more the abundance of choice that has lead to the latest disarray. Technology (the internet mostly) has continued to produce more and more platforms for alternative media, which has decentralized ownership of the "narrative". It's probably true that MSM sources are consolidating, but that's due to their market shares being under constant assault.
06-29-2017 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Fake news is news which is somehow fake. A sitcom set in a newsroom would contain fake news, that is whatever news which is scripted for the sitcom.

Fake fake news is like when trump calls news "fake news" because he can't handle it's not fake and calling it fake is a every easy thing to do.

"fake news" is an artificial term, more recently used as an excuse by republicans and conservatives to avoid responsibility for what ever is the news they can't handle.
06-29-2017 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
Your meme fell for a line. Even worse than news having troubles, is hearing about what the news is from people who get troubles from the news.
06-29-2017 , 08:59 PM
The Clinton News Network has been confirmed fake just in the last few days. Don't you watch the news?
06-29-2017 , 09:13 PM
i seriously don't remember the left spiking the football this much of Faux News' retraction of the seth rich conspiracy

odd that one single instance of a retraction makes the right completely lose their minds

in fact, the response being so different is probably noteworthy:

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CNN, on one hand, retracted its story within a day and issued an apology. The network immediately carried out an internal investigation. Three employees resigned. Those that remained were told that any future stories on the topic would need to be vetted by two top executives before publishing.

Fox, on the other hand, took a week to retract the story, though it was debunked by other news outlets within hours. Little news of an investigation within the network emerged. No on-air apology was issued, despite a week of speculative coverage on the cable network. No employees resigned. And one of the network’s stars — Sean Hannity — continues to promote the conspiracy theory to this day.

https://thinkprogress.org/fox-news-c...n-6fffbc589fe6
06-29-2017 , 09:28 PM
06-29-2017 , 09:51 PM
But politifact is fake news too. In fact, all facts are fake news, except the ones that make Donald Trump look good.
06-29-2017 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Actually, I think it's less the consolidation of media and more the abundance of choice that has lead to the latest disarray. Technology (the internet mostly) has continued to produce more and more platforms for alternative media, which has decentralized ownership of the "narrative". It's probably true that MSM sources are consolidating, but that's due to their market shares being under constant assault.
The abundance of choice is an illusion. One company will own hundreds of outlets. But I don't see how abundance of choice would be to blame for the problems you mentioned.

Has the platform provided by newer technology delivered where MSM can't or won't? I don't think so, but it is not an easy question to answer. Imagine that you were a billionaire. Are you going to be looking to invest money in starting an online newspaper when trusted industry names are flailing in their attempts for find a profitable model? And if you did you would just find yourself chasing the prized demographics and operating with profits in mind, lowering of standards be damned.

What we need here is something like the BBC. Take a little out of the military budget and put it into commercial free broadcasting subject to democratic controls. This is how most developed democracies do it.
06-29-2017 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
The abundance of choice is an illusion. One company will own hundreds of outlets. But I don't see how abundance of choice would be to blame for the problems you mentioned.



Has the platform provided by newer technology delivered where MSM can't or won't? I don't think so, but it is not an easy question to answer. Imagine that you were a billionaire. Are you going to be looking to invest money in starting an online newspaper when trusted industry names are flailing in their attempts for find a profitable model? And if you did you would just find yourself chasing the prized demographics and operating with profits in mind, lowering of standards be damned.



What we need here is something like the BBC. Take a little out of the military budget and put it into commercial free broadcasting subject to democratic controls. This is how most developed democracies do it.


I get most of my news from NPR, podcasts and youtoobs.
06-30-2017 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by harkin
There are still a few liberal journalists who have kept their heads during this media mental meltdown (emphasis mine):


"There are great benefits to be reaped by publishing alarmist claims about the Russian Threat and Trump’s connection to it. Stories that depict the Kremlin and Putin as villains and grave menaces are the ones that go most viral, produce the most traffic, generate the most professional benefits such as TV offers, along with online praise and commercial profit for those who disseminate them.

That’s why blatantly inane anti-Trump conspiracists and Russia conspiracies now command such a large audience: because there is a voracious appetite among anti-Trump internet and cable news viewers for stories, no matter how false, that they want to believe are true (and, conversely, expressing any skepticism about such stories results in widespread accusations that one is a Kremlin sympathizer or outright agent)."
- Glenn Greenwald in The Intercept.

Great read.

https://theintercept.com/2017/06/27/...russia-threat/

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Shockingly none of our liberal truth seekers had anything to say about this article. If it goes against the narrative it really doesn't matter who writes it. That's not to say that GG, the guy voted most slurpable journalist five years in a row by the lefto politards wasn't already persona non grata for stepping out of line a while back, but that's all moot. The narrative is strong, and all important, and must be protected at all costs.


Go insertidioticpoliticalfootballteamnamehere!
06-30-2017 , 01:44 AM
i think most of the people here are smart enough to have harkin on ignore
06-30-2017 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
i think most of the people here are smart enough to have harkin on ignore

haha, fair enough
06-30-2017 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Losing all
Shockingly none of our liberal truth seekers had anything to say about this article. If it goes against the narrative it really doesn't matter who writes it. That's not to say that GG, the guy voted most slurpable journalist five years in a row by the lefto politards wasn't already persona non grata for stepping out of line a while back, but that's all moot. The narrative is strong, and all important, and must be protected at all costs.


Go insertidioticpoliticalfootballteamnamehere!
Its not fake news Russia tried to hack our election machines or committed the largest cyber attack in our history against one of our most important rights. That is unless you disbelieve the IC who are overwhelmingly saying that and have some conspiracy's of your own. Kind of a big story no?


It is also true both of you support a president who has done nothing about that. Big odd story there too.

Why does donnie not want to defend us or put sanctions on the Russians. Why are so many Americas a ok with it. Strange new doings among reps.

Last edited by batair; 06-30-2017 at 02:34 AM.
06-30-2017 , 02:29 AM
For the middle of the road non cable news watching person, this did not come as a shock. Every time I visit my mother since the election, who keeps CNN on 24/7 as background noise, a quick peek tells me that yes, they're still talking about Russia Trump conspiracies. And to think, we have OJ Simpson to thank for all of this.

      
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