[Warming fears are the ] "worst scientific scandal in history...When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists" - IPCC Japanese scientist Dr Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist.

"It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don't buy into anthropogenic global warming" - U.S. Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of the NOAA.

"I am convinced that the current alarm over carbon dioxide is mistaken... Fears about man-made man-made global warming are unwarranted and are not based on good science." - Physicist Dr. Will Happer, Professor at the Department of Physics, Princeton University.

Silver_man sure is fond of blind appeals to authority.

Hardly

An industrial chemist, a meteorologist, and an atomic physicist. Solid.

This is like the 5th or 6th generation of denialism: "Hey man, C02 is good for plants, right? What's the problem?"

Millions would die with a cooling planet.

Good thing nobody is recommending that we create a cooling planet.

Maybe duker thinks the planet's climate is supposed to be static?

Oh wait, if that was the case we would all be dead.

People get cancer all of the time, why should we fight it? It's a natural cycle. Actually... cancer has been shown to help you lose weight. Maybe it's a good thing.

Good thing nobody is suggesting a static climate.

Yeah and naturally doctors treat cancer...

And obviously corrupt politicians fixing global warming is just as natural as doctors treating cancer.

Wait, so you think global warming is something that needs fixing?

i don't care about the issue either way. But if a someone has cancer they get a doctor.

And if there is a problem with global warming or whatever the **** they call it these days...and it needs to be fixed....obviously get the corrupt politicians to fix it, right??? ha

Oh that makes sense. It's your apathy for global warming that has you in this thread posting quotes and talking about cooling nonsense and whatnot.

Still can't address the fact that doctors treat cancer........but politicians treat MMGW? Ya, because that doesn't make sense.

I only care if the people have to pay for it. Maybe round up your friends and all pay for scam ethanol gasoline or the next scam you guys just pay more since you believe in it all. ANd leave the rest alone?

Or maybe come up with an idea that doesn't fleece people out of their money like every previous global warming plan does?

Think the politicians will still be interested in promoting it then?

Ya, I didn't think so either

i have friends that live in california, and they don't believe in forest fires. Why should THEIR tax dollars go to fighting forest fires? Nothing but corrupt politicians allocating dollars on things that could be USEFUL, like my friends buying more stuff.

Anyone who disagrees with me is pro-snow storms, btw.

Well, I agree with Silver_Man2, government has been corrupted, it always will. Solution however, not so much.. Just removing it won't help. It's not government its the people in government! replace them! That is really the only option. It must be fixed. No easy fix either. But we are the people and government is us.
See selfishness isn't a bad thing, for the most part. Survival needs you to be selfish, and that means money, and there is just never enough, ever. We need security, a healthy environment, safety nets if things go to ****, justice and good education. And healthy food and good quality stuff.
If eventually government is serving us again, things like police, research into global warming solutions, welfare, awesome education for all, healthcare if your ill, oversight, accountability, fair justice and so on..
So, taxation for money to do ALL the necessary things is a problem, but solvable -some compromises must be made but still. If instead of taxing people so much, obv the more you have the more you should contribute, then tax consumption, luxuries, tax corporations and businesses for being allowed to make/sell the things we need. like a permit. (witch guaranties us healthy food and good quality stuff)
It will probably slow down growth and innovation slightly. but it would be fair, and as long as it is fair, people won't mind it so much. Also things like crowd funding is interesting to explore.. and maybe some limits so it won't corrupt again..
The alternative is just feudalism or monarchies, and that just don't work. Not for us anyway. But most likely it will just keep grinding us all down..

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It's odd that on a site where 20,000 hands is considered an insufficient number of events to make meaningful inferences that the climate change statistics don't produce more 'lol sample size' responses.

That's probably mainly because poker statistics are point estimates, and most everything in science is presented with error bars/bounds.

If the poker results included error bars, then one wouldn't need to think about sample sizes, because the effect of sample sizes is already baked in (pun somewhat intentional). There'd be a different argument/typical response that would replace the "lol sample size" issue--most likely relating to people misinterpreting error bars, though.

Politicians can't even get their head out of their ass and we're supposed to believe they can set the global thermostat thru more taxation and legislation? Give me a ****ing break!

Take a break and consider this; who else?

The lack of rainfall has emptied the Sierra Mountain snowpack responsible for a majority of the California state’s water, is now pitting farmers against fishermen, north against south and, of course, Democrats against Republicans.

How state and federal lawmakers respond to the crisis could offer a window into how the United States writ large will react to climate events in real time—and so far, the politics appear too small for the task.

"The drought shows that even the most responsible steward of the environment will suffer without a global effort."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol

So?

Can't people leave California?

A cooling Pacific Ocean puts a lot more dry air over California, hence creating a lot more forest fires.

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/905338...n-overtime-pay

California firefighters... making 200k... LOL. No waste or fraud going on there.

Hey Roonil....remind me how badly in debt California is? If they were just paying essential services like police, fire, courts, transportation etc you WOULDN"T have actual cities in California going bankrupt. And the entire state is going to go bankrupt.

But let's give them even MORE money to do WHAT exactly to make the climate perfect? T

Remember the global climate summit? All it was was a big party, where literally nothing got accomplished. They actually had a red carpet out for the party. All paid for obv.

Funny how you clowns actually trust and put faith in these corrupt *******s.

California has a $2.4 billion budget surplus.

Try again.