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Old 05-13-2017, 07:42 PM   #26
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Re: Chomsky says GOP is the most dangerous organisation in history

You tell us Dan
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Old 05-14-2017, 02:24 PM   #27
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Re: Chomsky says GOP is the most dangerous organisation in history

I never saw the appeal of Chomsky. For some reason, he also seems to be into white-washing the atrocities of Assad's regime in Syria:

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/co...e-whitewashing

This gets deep into the weeds of the Syrian chemical weapons attacks, but it's instructive as a reminder that the far left are just as susceptible to conspiracy theories/confirmation bias as the far right even if the right is far more problematic at the moment.

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Chomsky was not unaware of Postol's indiscretions when he spoke in Cambridge. But he didn't let such concerns get in the way of his contrarian posture. He could play dissident and wed his credibility to an unreliable source because in our intellectual culture you never pay a price for errors that are fatal only to others.

Chomsky's reputation survived his endorsement of Gareth Porter's denialism in Cambodia; his reputation survived the endorsement of Diana Johnstone's denialism in Bosnia; and there is no reason his endorsement of Postol will affect his book sales or deny him public fora.
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Old 05-14-2017, 03:00 PM   #28
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Syria is a horrible catastrophe. The Assad regime is a moral disgrace. They’re carrying out horrendous acts, the Russians with them.
The reaction against Chomsky or Greenwald or anyone who goes too far in criticizing the US is pretty remarkable. Chomsky goes too far in criticizing the US, corporations, capitalism, the military etc. That's like 99.99% of what he does. Someone who is mad about that finds this or that where he quotes some MIT professor who they claim is a conspiracy nut.

Or another thing from 1977 where people immediately 40 years later bring up to discredit him:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-0...homsky/2779086

I really don't get it. It's at least as accurate for me now to go on about how 13ball is really unsure about climate change. Here he is in this thread attacking anyone who has a problem with the GOP's attacks on the environment. That would be wrong, huh? You know as well as anyone that Chomsky is not cool with ruthless murderous dictators.
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Old 05-14-2017, 03:12 PM   #29
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Re: Chomsky says GOP is the most dangerous organisation in history

Chomsky's whole point about Assad or Pol Pot or Stalin or whoever is reverse whataboutism. We do it too. Our allies do it too. Our media reports the atrocities of enemies and virtually ignores the our atrocities or those committed by allies. That's an important take and should not be defensively attacked as support for enemy atrocities. It's important because, if we really do have any democratic power, not only do we have some responsibility for what has been done we have a lot better opportunity to influence our actions than those of others.
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Old 05-14-2017, 03:19 PM   #30
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< 13 minutes showing the appeal of Chomsky
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Old 05-14-2017, 11:30 PM   #31
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I really don't get it. It's at least as accurate for me now to go on about how 13ball is really unsure about climate change. Here he is in this thread attacking anyone who has a problem with the GOP's attacks on the environment. That would be wrong, huh? You know as well as anyone that Chomsky is not cool with ruthless murderous dictators.
I didn't say he was cool with dictators, but I guess "white-washing" was a bit extreme because it suggests intent. This was my point:

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t's instructive as a reminder that the far left are just as susceptible to conspiracy theories/confirmation bias as the far right
Whatever his motives, spreading junk ideas like Postol's has the effect of minimizing Assad's crimes. And Chomsky should know better. He should certainly know better after having Postol's flaws pointed out to him.
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Old 05-15-2017, 01:17 PM   #32
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I emailed Chomsky and he replied. It wasn't about this and it turned out very brief and not interesting. I know this is a lame post, but I think permission before publishing emails is important in his circles.
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Old 05-17-2017, 05:02 AM   #33
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I emailed Chomsky and he replied. It wasn't about this and it turned out very brief and not interesting. I know this is a lame post, but I think permission before publishing emails is important in his circles.
at least your trying to be somewhat active :-)
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