https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byxeOG_pZ1o

I would like to discuss this speech from George Bush Snr while defining the term conspiracy as "A secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful."

I find the strategic actions being taken while attempting a hostile takeover of the planet through force of arms, intensive media propaganda and the military-industrial-complex to be both unlawful and harmful.

I also find there to be minimal 'secrecy' about it and the cause of it being a loaded term is denial, so this creates a rather interesting thought line with regards to the technicalities of considering such a hot topic term to be classed as a 'conspiracy' to begin with.


Further to this, I would like to discuss the viewpoint of individuals that believe that they understand the strategy and consider it to be the correct decision.

Thank you for your time in reading.
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Vid's from '91. If there's a conspiracy it's being run by imbeciles. Just like everything else, apparently, so I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Would it be better to go back to the old world order that including the Soviet Union trying to spread communism throughout the world?

It's not a conspiracy. It's elementary noncooperative game theory. Collusion benefits everyone in charge.

I have found this common assertion to be one of the most glaring WTFs among commoners.

Im pretty sure most all the "higher-ups" in charge of making the "real decisions" in the US Gubment are educated (can not speak for other countries). I am also pretty sure passing the bar, let alone applying aquired knowledge effectively in practice, isn't the easiest of things to do for "imbecils". Most US gubment higher ups are lawyers iirc.

Now, if it were actually the case that US gubment is run by imbeciles, im guessing we have a larger problem than expected amirite? Cause, how exactly did these imbeciles even get elected if their imbecilia was so blatently obvious? How exactly did these imbecils hold office and climb ranks for so many years without being exposed as the lacky slacker dumb imbecile attorneys they are? I thought the public defenders office was supposed to contain the goofball/uneducated/slacker/imbeciles?

How exactly is it that most of the politicians that make all the key decisions are imbeciles again?

If I were running a conspiracy, "imbicile" is exactly what I want you to think I am. Thats just me tho.

He used the words "New world order" while talking about spreading democracy, the rule of law, and a future of peace with the Soviets 24 years ago.

If that isn't a clear sign that it's brown trouser time, I don't know what is for you sheeple.

Anybody can be dumb but only a very smart person can be truly stupid. Take Don Rumsfeld as an example. Clearly smart, high IQ, steeped in policy and government experience and he ****ed everything up as much as possible. If his type are behind a NWO conspiracy they are doing a heck of a job. Just look around, ffs.

Something like this was my first response. Then I thought maybe OP had a semblance of a point in calling it a conspiracy given that propaganda can, in effect, achieve the secrecy required. My final take was there is way too much honest appraisal of this particular arrangement (especially from within the belly of the beast) and too much true believing by its leaders to conform to OP's definition of conspiracy theory. Finally, a network of social organization so deep and diffuse is not explained meaningfully as a conspiracy theory and is better termed a zeitgeist.

The fall of the soviet union was a terrifying development for a lot of elites. On the one hand we could do whatever we want now globally because there was no one to stop us. On the other hand, the excuse for doing whatever we wanted was gone and there was fear that people might want to pursue peacetime pursuits not involving things like Reagan's Star Wars boondoggle, for example. So this idea of a new world order (now now called into globalism) was an early formulation of a broad context (detailed with neoliberalism and American exceptionalism) to support corporate operations and their concomitant military expenditures anywhere in the world. This is when terrorism was first hyped as a security threat in an attempt to maintain fear and justify the huge military budget.

If you were to go back and realize the cold war was bull**** you can see that the new world order is just a continuation of the same bull****, nothing really new or conspiratorial. Rather it's the ideological framework for a wellspring of false but good-sounding pretexts that allow us to be the empire we are while playing the good guy music in the background.

When people with wealth, can do whatever they want, without consequences and have a drive/passion for what they do exist.
It results with groups of people forming, doing whatever their connection values are and it results with consequences.

Some of the main groups running today, have skilled people producing their content in ways that show success; wealth must be in their life.
If you can sway masses of people to believe, what you're spreading, you are successful in whatever field your day job is, if they have a need for one.

I've seen stuff from these groups, that have characteristics from a mix of people with cs, art, psychological, political, medical, sociological degrees and the list goes on. They resemble current today hacking groups but also future hacking groups and probably will not die out.

The only chance they die out is if net neutrality ends up losing and the internet becomes more like a television experience.
We would lose a lot more then a few conspiracy groups, spreading their views with unique connections that make you believe everyone of them is a schizo or harbouring a really unique imagination in one self.

Dude, you gotta stop trying to use commas. Stick to using them for lists only, such as the below quote, and your writing will be a lot less incomprehensible.

I like the way that I write and maybe you'll figure it out or not.

no, i already know you like everything about yourself. It's why you refuse to take any advice.

I meant my writing style in that post.
I'm not an english major type of person, yet I try my best to split points with commas throughout a sentence and enjoy looking at the final output.

Will eventually be getting surgery in the future because I don't like everything about myself, which isn't a problem in the era we live in.
I take advice from lots of people, even though it doesn't come across like it and I would probably not be posting if it wasn't for peoples' advice or my personality I have.

Shocking, revelations in, this, thread,

Reading this makes me sad. I hope things work out for you.

As per George Sr. speech don't take everything he says for granted some dumb 20 year old speechwriter probably put that line in there. "Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall." was written by a 20 something speechwriter. Remember Obama is probably a C student that was only good at giving speeches. If one of his speechwriters slips something in we are screwed. Here is a classic speechwriter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF48IghIN7c

I never knew they gave magna cum laude degrees to C students.

well he said probably (a-hem)