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12-11-2013 , 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
Then why are conservatives constantly trying to defund PP?
Is this a real question???

I mean **** man.....I realize there are some racist people out there, but I don't think it typically goes much farther than a racist joke or throwing an N-bomb here and there in front of like minded people. Your basically assuming that your typical conservative wants blacks and hispanics dead and not be able to have the right to reproduce, when asking the question you just asked.

You are also assuming that your typical ****** so-called conservative is smart enough to even see it this way.
12-11-2013 , 09:58 AM
Kerowa -

Also....you assume that conservatives hate minorities and want them dead or not reproducing... pretty far fetched....

And then at the same time you have PP who's MISSION when it was founded was to exterminate blacks and to this very day is doing the same thing as when it was founded. And you think that its about providing a service because women deserve the right to choose??? And that that it is what it's about?

Man...pretty backwards if you ask me.
12-11-2013 , 10:49 AM
Somebody tell SM2 that Margaret Sanger is no longer alive to run eugenic expiriments on the individual women who choose to receive healthcare services at planned parenthood.
12-11-2013 , 11:17 AM
It doesn't sound like Sanger was much of a racist. (She was anti-immigration, though ) In fact, Martin Luther King supported her.

No doubt she supported the brutal idea of forced sterilizations and birth control for those considered mentally and physically "unfit." That is eugenics, but not necessarily racism.
12-11-2013 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
Your basically assuming that your typical conservative wants blacks and hispanics dead and not be able to have the right to reproduce, when asking the question you just asked.

You are also assuming that your typical ****** so-called conservative is smart enough to even see it this way.
I need to ask you an honest question here, totally off-topic, and I don't want to come off as a grammar nit. (I am a bit of a grammar nit at heart, but I usually keep it to myself rather than let it interfere with a productive day of writing argumentative paragraphs back and forth with strangers on the internet.)

When you type "your" twice within five words of each other, each meaning a different thing, right at the start of your post, does it not cross your mind to maybe fix one of them? Does typing "You are" immediately under it not ring any bells either? Do you not even glance back at what you've written after you've written it? Or do you just type so rapidly and furiously that it's the linguistic equivalent of this?



You see how that car isn't parked properly, right? At the very least, you must see that something in this picture is a little out of place. I know that I'm somewhere on the fringes of the bell curve as these things go, but this picture is what an otherwise proper sentence with the "your" clash looks like to me. Again, speaking from the fringe here, but surely this is very noticeable to someone who bothers to punctuate and capitalize correctly, and who has some grasp over English sentence structure and whatnot.
12-11-2013 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rjoefish
Bob Dylan is awful.
Covers of his songs are good though.
12-11-2013 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
So it is racist to point out the obvious fact that the whole point of Planned Parenthood is to keep the minority population in check? And to also dwindle their numbers. Under the guise of...... "you women have a right to choose" LOL

Also.... you think elitist pro-choice politicians give a **** about some 19 year old riffraff sluts oh so precious right to choose? Why can't I point that obvious fact out without being labeled a sexist or racist or whatever?
what you state as "obvious fact" is a tin foil hat theory largely perpetuated, I would assume, by racists.

You are labelled a racist and sexist because of your posts. The fact that you don't understand why I imagine just illustrates how ingrained your neanderthal attitudes are.
12-11-2013 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
Everyone here knows Margaret Sanger’s history and philosophy. This isn’t exactly a huge revelation here that murdering minority babies was (and obviously still is) the goal. Oh it isn't? Well how come so many more minority babies are aborted than whites? Sure, minorities tend to be poorer but I think you have to have just as many if not more poor white people just based on much greater population of whites.

To your last question...I think they are willing to let a handful slide through who might end up becoming prosperous to make sure a ton more don't reproduce. I am in Planned Parenthoods every single week, trust me, just because these people are in there aborting babies sure as heck isn't gonna give them a golden ticket to the country club. This includes whites too.

Do you and others think de-population/population control is just some conspiracy theory???

It's kind of like the whole DDT thing......yeah....sure....all those environmental nut jobs were oh so concerned about those stupid poor robin's eggs that were thinning or whatever. And then you had a Sierra Club president on the record in the 70's saying that malaria is nature's population control. Bingo.

Everything has a theme of population control/de-population. Healthcarez, abortion, promoting the gay lifestyle, the **** they put in our food...etc etc

Go ahead, laugh it all up...I'm insane. Your elitist bought and paid for politicians really truly do have all the 18 year old pregnant whore's out there best interests at heart.
I'm actually not familiar with Sanger's history and philosophy. Could you let me know where you learned that she wanted to murder black babies?
12-11-2013 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by J, Davis
I have learnt my lesson, i should be ashamed of who i am, and i should be ashamed of my culture. This is coming from the tolerant* liberals

*only tolerant in certain instances

Please note that i have never insulted anyone, yet i have received messages that wish harm upon me and my family. Yet i am the one who is supposedly coming across as bigoted.

I am not racist, i support the rights of all colors to reside in the nations where they have settled, i even have a friend who is black, and another that is asian. I am simply asking questions about why i should hate myself and why im not allowed to take pride in my culture, like other cultures are allowed to do.

I am religious, and read the thread where the catholic who asked me about jefferson davis refers to the moslem god by saying "peace upon him" after mentioning the name. So i ask this catholic, are you agree or disagree with your church that the moslem god is false prophet?
1. "Right to reside where settled." Why are you caught up on settling where settled, who cares when and where people settle? Assuming you feel the USA is where White people settled, how do you assume this with clear conscience?! Did you accidentally overlook the 100,000,000 Native Americans (keyword: Native) Whitey exterminated in order to "settle" here???

2. I question the nature of any friendship involving friend A believing friend B has no right to live next door, down the street, or anywhere within a 2000 mile radius or WTF ever distance it is from your backwoods Pennsyltucky residence to the Canadian and Mexican border.

2a) Rule of thumb: If you want to determine if someone's racist, watch for comments like "I even have a friend who is X." Dead give away.

3. Nobody is telling you, so far I can tell, to not be proud of your race/culture, but people ARE telling you how White folks publicly announcing said pride is highly correlated with racist beliefs in our experience.

4. You're racist. Check out the Wikipedia entry on racism if you have any further questionsz.
12-11-2013 , 04:05 PM
12-11-2013 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
I'm actually not familiar with Sanger's history and philosophy. Could you let me know where you learned that she wanted to murder black babies?

April 1932 Birth Control Review, pg. 108

"Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race."



Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.

"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
12-11-2013 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
It doesn't sound like Sanger was much of a racist. (She was anti-immigration, though ) In fact, Martin Luther King supported her.

No doubt she supported the brutal idea of forced sterilizations and birth control for those considered mentally and physically "unfit." That is eugenics, but not necessarily racism.
Quotes above.

I am actually pretty stunned that you and wookie did not know about this

Unless I am being leveled in some way...
12-11-2013 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
April 1932 Birth Control Review, pg. 108

"Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race."



Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.

"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
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This quote has been cited by Angela Davis to support her claims that Sanger wanted to exterminate black people.[89] However, New York University's Margaret Sanger Papers Project, argues that in writing that letter, "Sanger recognized elements within the black community might mistakenly associate the Negro Project with racist sterilization campaigns in the Jim Crow South, unless clergy and other community leaders spread the word that the Project had a humanitarian aim."[90]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger#Eugenics

So you're probably just projecting a bit...
12-11-2013 , 11:19 PM
Defending Margaret Sanger is like defending Robert E Lee. Even if you're right, it's not worth it.
12-11-2013 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
April 1932 Birth Control Review, pg. 108

"Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race."



Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.

"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
LOL be more disingenuous please.
12-11-2013 , 11:38 PM
If she didn't want the word about her secret plan to exterminate blacks to get out, publishing her plan in a journal was probably not a smart play.
12-11-2013 , 11:50 PM
also, if you didn't want people to find out that you BLATANTLY PLAGIARIZED YOUR MISINTERPRETED RESEARCH, you probably shouldn't have INCORRECTLY LIFTED THE WORK FROM A GOOGLE-ABLE PRO-LIFE WEBPAGE.

http://www.lifenews.com/2013/03/11/1...rgaret-sanger/

as you can see, the april 1932 BCR did not have the first quote. in fact, your second citation, which you claim has the second quote, should actually refer to the first quotation, and you should have just copy/pasted this for the second quote:

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Margaret Sanger’s December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255 Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Also described in Linda Gordon’s Woman’s Body, Woman’s Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America. New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976.
but yes, please continue on about how badly you interpret the connotation of words and how well you and the entire pro-life dip****tery of the internet can remove any and all context from small snippets of papers and letters.
12-12-2013 , 01:00 AM
Silver, I don't care if Margret Sanger personally punted every black baby she saw into a corn thresher. That doesn't change the fact that you're so much of a punk ass coward you'll drive away from the pump without getting out because you saw some minorities walking nearby. That's you. You're the sniveling waste of flesh here. You personally. And you don't even bother denying it!

History is full of ****ty, ****ty people. But here's the thing: you appear to respond to people pointing out what a horrific piece of **** you are by desperately searching for evidence that other people have also been bad. Now, because you're ****ing illiterate, you do a real bad job of that.

But how ****ing sad is that's the best you can aspire to? "but other people too"? You're flailing around with this pathetic bull**** about how sure you are that everyone else is like secretly also a piece of ****...

have you ever considered just trying to be a decent normal human being? For once in your wasted ****ing life?
12-12-2013 , 01:07 AM
Celebrating the shared plight of humanity and our commonality are more constructive than propagating differences and insecurities based on genetic alleles for skin pigmentation.
12-12-2013 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
If she didn't want the word about her secret plan to exterminate blacks to get out, publishing her plan in a journal was probably not a smart play.
no internet and illiteracy
12-12-2013 , 01:52 AM
My Silver_Man2 story, for those who might have missed it...

They are lurkers, but I've made a few real life Brothers here in Los Dos Politards. We've gone out and done the Rumba with the Robo-cops. If you've ever been to that dance, you know you truly the one's you came with.

And then along comes Silver_Man2 to Baja Politards. And while spewing his hateful stupid evil bile, he picks a random chicka out of a random UTOOBZ and calls her unemployable, stupid, a drug addict, homeless, a whore... but mainly starts dissembling about her being filthy, unsanitary, a slob... a 'dirty' hippie type.

This is, of course, the same Silver_Man2, who despite everything else ****ed up about him... is probably most infamous here in Baja Politards for refusing to wash his hands after peeing. Projection much ???/?

Well amazingly enough... I know this particular #supercool lady in real life. We're not BFF, but I even got her on my speed dial. And without giving away any personal details... she has good hygiene, a professional career (outside of sex work), an MA, doesn't have an addiction problem, and lives indoors with her BF and a good big dog.

The punch line... that #supercool lady and myself have been on the same Street Samba dance card in real life too... along with those wild and crazy party-crashing Robo-cops, of course. While Silver_Man2 is too scared to pump is his own gas. If she wasn't all into MLK style Non-violence... she'd kick Silver_Man2's sorry sexist ***.
12-12-2013 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
no internet and illiteracy
his comment (and thus your reply) is actually irrelevant considering you (as i already pointed out) incorrectly attributed the quotation. instead, the first quote was published in a book (side note: she [and many others] often referred to a "cleaner race" to mean eliminating mental ******ation, criminality, and other "indesirables," not to the complete eradication of one race to the benefit of another, so claiming that is a "she hates black people" gotcha is just LOL), so presumably anyone could have gotten it and at worst had someone else read it to them. the second quote, addressed in a private letter to a P&G heir, was specifically talking about OUTREACH to the black community so that they would see birth control as a helpful solution to curb the problem of children born into poverty and NOT as a genocide strategy, as dip****s like you and the right-wing nutjobs you follow like to misinterpret.

seriously, what is wrong in your brain that when you see someone trying to reach out to a community to avoid misinterpretations, you automatically assume that said misinterpretation is automatically correct? that's just ****ing stupid.
12-12-2013 , 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Shame Trolly !!!1!
My Silver_Man2 story, for those who might have missed it...

They are lurkers, but I've made a few real life Brothers here in Los Dos Politards. We've gone out and done the Rumba with the Robo-cops. If you've ever been to that dance, you know you truly the one's you came with.

And then along comes Silver_Man2 to Baja Politards. And while spewing his hateful stupid evil bile, he picks a random chicka out of a random UTOOBZ and calls her unemployable, stupid, a drug addict, homeless, a whore... but mainly starts dissembling about her being filthy, unsanitary, a slob... a 'dirty' hippie type.

This is, of course, the same Silver_Man2, who despite everything else ****ed up about him... is probably most infamous here in Baja Politards for refusing to wash his hands after peeing. Projection much ???/?

Well amazingly enough... I know this particular #supercool lady in real life. We're not BFF, but I even got her on my speed dial. And without giving away any personal details... she has good hygiene, a professional career (outside of sex work), an MA, doesn't have an addiction problem, and lives indoors with her BF and a good big dog.

The punch line... that #supercool lady and myself have been on the same Street Samba dance card in real life too... along with those wild and crazy party-crashing Robo-cops, of course. While Silver_Man2 is too scared to pump is his own gas. If she wasn't all into MLK style Non-violence... she'd kick Silver_Man2's sorry sexist ***.
Lol dafaq?
12-12-2013 , 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Silver, I don't care if Margret Sanger personally punted every black baby she saw into a corn thresher. That doesn't change the fact that you're so much of a punk ass coward you'll drive away from the pump without getting out because you saw some minorities walking nearby. That's you. You're the sniveling waste of flesh here. You personally. And you don't even bother denying it!

History is full of ****ty, ****ty people. But here's the thing: you appear to respond to people pointing out what a horrific piece of **** you are by desperately searching for evidence that other people have also been bad. Now, because you're ****ing illiterate, you do a real bad job of that.

But how ****ing sad is that's the best you can aspire to? "but other people too"? You're flailing around with this pathetic bull**** about how sure you are that everyone else is like secretly also a piece of ****...
Minorities not walking nearby....minorities trying to flag me down while I was about to pull up and get gas with 110 degree weather outside. Didn't want to deal with whatever BULL**** they wanted from me that obviously involved me giving them money for whatever it is they wanted to for me. Do you like dealing with BULL**** FLy?!?!?! I don't give a **** if their Hispanic. Sorry that I didn't get out of my car in 110 degree heat and engage a bunch of strangers in a conversation of which I wouldn't even be able to understand probably.

I help COUNTLESS minorities in the entire valley of Phoenix save money on their prescription medication for my job. Driving around endlessly to over 150 urgent care clinics, community health centers, doctors offices etc helping primarily hispanics who are poorer than dirt save money on costly medications. So go **** yourself.

Let's say your right...let's say I am racist. Maybe I crack a few black jokes here and there. Maybe I drop N-bombs from time to time. Who gives a ****?!?!? Big ****ing deal?!?!?

ESPECIALLY when you have over 500 Planned Parenthood clinics doing their part to keep minorities from breeding??? And the FOUNDER'S goals were exactly that.

Who gives a **** if I am racist or not!?!? What's ****ing amazing to me is people like you are more concerned about some white trash hillbilly in Mississippi dropping N bombs or someone looking at a mexican in a funny way than you are about the people actually ****ing up, manipulating, and doing horrible things for horrible reasons to the same minorities you get so butthurt about over some redneck saying something. You even pretty much admitted it when you said you think I'm racist but then justify it by pointing out worse people and entities doing actual terrible things. Well let's hear you go after those *******s for once.
12-12-2013 , 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by airwave16
the first quote was published in a book (side note: she [and many others] often referred to a "cleaner race" to mean eliminating mental ******ation, criminality, and other "indesirables," not to the complete eradication of one race to the benefit of another, so claiming that is a "she hates black people" gotcha is just LOL),
****ing mind boggling.........

Sure, mental ******ation was part of it but so were BLACKS!

You could not get a more perfect example of a racist than Margaret Sanger. And you people are making excuses for her and her organization, while at the same time calling almost anyone racist for the smallest most ridiculous stuff.

      
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