So bahbah's story is that when he said "I read this article on another site a couple of weeks ago", he really meant he didnt "read this story' he read a different story. When he said he "read it on another site" he meant a story was emailed or texted to him. This different story of another woman shooting someone playing the knockout game somehow has disappeared from the internet without a trace, but somehow led bahbah to randomly post a super racist article.

Also its super unfair to expect bahbah to show this other story he was reading, but the original article was from an onion-like site so the other true story must exist and supports his point.

Alright then....

My story hasn't changed. How has it taken you 8 months to understand this?

All stories on satirical sites, like the onion, are loosely based off of real events. So if I said I read the story on another site it should be pretty evident that I meant that it was the loosely based article that I read.

...Viewing an article after clicking on a link that was sent to you doesn't change the wording of the article if you were to find the same article on google.

I mean, I know its unfair for me to use your words and stuff to characterize what you said, but I think we are both pretty happy with how your actions have been portrayed in this thread and can just let posters make their own judgments.

We are also forgetting that even if I intentional linked that racist article, which I didn't, to that thread that still wouldn't make me racist. The thread was about gun rights and not race (at least before I linked the racist article).

If posting something racist that someone else said made you a racist then gambool would be the most racist person on this site. Any time anyone mentions anything about race he quotes it and, just like I did with the article, he calls it racist.

Amazing.

Remember earlier in the thread when a couple posters tried to claim that bahbah had apologized for posting racist drivel so we should just take him at his word and move on? Remember when it was pointed out that bahbah wasn't really apologizing but really didn't think there was anything wrong with posting the racist article, but we were handwaved away and told that reading what bahbah actually wrote wasn't necessary because he was obviously apologetic?

Yeah, this is why reading what bahbah actually wrote is actually helpful when coming to conclusions.

If it was as simple as this I would be ok w/ that, but no matter what others say today in a week, a month, a year and every other time I post anything you will always come in right behind me and say "nope, that isn't true. One time bahbah posted a racist article so therefore he is racist and he is wrong about 1+1 equaling 2".

Yes. I will point out that you are a racist while I am pointing out your posts that 1+1=3 is wrong. I do it because I want to make your posting experience in unchained much less enjoyable. Hope this helps!

Obviously the rules are different in the regular politics forum. I wont call you a racist when you post there for sure!

A few pages back (ITT) I countered your 4 arguments and I missed your response. Can you quote it or tell me the post #, please?

Sure, start with post 82 and then just read the rest of my posts addressed to you in this thread. Ive explained my thoughts on your behavior quite clearly, the rest of the understanding is up to you.

This is an ugly thread death. It gives me a sad face.

Just ban bahbah if you don't like this discussion. I promise I wont be offended, we went through this 50 times before and Ive said my peace.

#FreeJohnyCrash

Should have read just ban bahbah and I from the thread if you don't like this discussion.

I'm still happy to defend any posts I've made people find racist. Here, or in MY thread you hijacked.

I'll offer the same advise again. You have to move on, there's nothing you can do whether you're guilty or not.

To make it a bit clearer than last time, I have't bothered to follow the detail because the process is ridiculous - you're trying to prove you're not a racist to people who have a ludicrously low bar for judging people and enjoy judging people for no particularly good reason. You have almost no chance of success whatever the truth is which should maybe make you wonder why you care what they say.

It doesn't matter now, all anyone reasonable can ask is that you are more careful in future. That cant be a bad idea whether you said something that justifies gambool/wookie/etc judgement or not. Just let it go and be careful in future.

The only thing I'd add to this is be honest with yourself even if only private, a bit of self-reflection never hurts anyone. If (and I say that without prejudice as I haven't followed the details) you did do something racist and you don't like to be racist then they are doing you a favour if you can learn form it.

Oh he's not going to move on, and Im going to keep making sure people know his history wherever and whatever he posts about in unchained. Don't worry about that.

You may well do but that's about you than about him.

Hopefully he will realise that very soon.

When reasoning fails, and its failed with bahbah for years and across subjects, I'll settle for degrading his message board experience as much as possible much like he's degraded everyone else's.

Not losing a lot of sleep over your thoughts about me, but rest assured as well that after all the SMP whining about racism posts over the last couple of months there is another subject that isn't going to die on here as well

You are right chez. I should have realized it the first time you told me. Your last post plus this post from Gambool finally made me realize it.

We should start a thread where we can all share posts we aren't proud of and own our errors collectively.

Cool thing about conversations in this space is they never have to end. Threads die and are reborn, sometimes in a different form and different place. Who really knows where exchanging ideas might lead?

Prejudice is such an expert level topic, straight to the core of human malfunction and redemption, and we can barely come to mutual terms about ITF. I leave a 'door' open for a thread such as this to rise above the apparent limited potential of labeling and social harassment.

Too much pride on the line. Next thing you know, we'll be holding hands singing about the world in perfect harmony. :P

Although I love the idea. Getting past an awful post really begins when the person with it acknowledges it as such. However, in politics that kind of information has a different value and can be used in a non-supportive way. Some folks even seem to swear by it.

Speaking of which, What are the potential decorum guidelines for such a thread?

I'd say gentle ribbing at most, with collective laughter at the error of our former ways being preferable.

Yes, incentivizing laughing at our own folly is an idea I can stand behind. I have never laughed at myself harshly.

In fact, I declare open-season of self-laughter for being totally human for everyone right now, even if ya don't poast about it.