Hey MissileDog, tell us about Anarchism.

Man cannot exist without compulsion. Even alone in the woods he is compelled by the forces of nature. As it is said it is written as it is so.

The biological necessities of eating, ****ting, sleeping, etc., are not what I would consider compulsion. I'm referring to compulsion in human relationships and interactions.

If you and I have some sort of a conflict, it is much better resolved through mutual respect, reasoning, and cooperation, rather than me forcing you to do something, or you forcing me.

Science should be welcomed in any subject of discussion, and is always relevant.

Naw, I mentioned your bizarre use of the term "scape goat". If I'm scapegoating someone I must have done something wrong and am trying to shift the blame. What do you imagine, in your fevered little mind, that I've personally done IRL that is blame worthy? How could asking someone questions over the interwebs possibly shift blame to them?

Are you really making up your own little language now? WTF BBQ ??

Maybe you shouldn't list him as an influence if you haven't actually read anything by him. And there goes your paranoia again... tin foil hat much? Rothbard is so far out there, believe me, nobody needs to misrepresent his crapola...

Anyways, the quote was from the literal "bible" on 'anarchsim', Rothbard's Ethics of Liberty, chapter 14 (avialable full text on mises.org). And it's not just Rothbard, or any appeal to authority, not at all... I've never even heard of a libertarian type who didn't champion child labor. Like I said, if any of them were against child labor... they would be admitting that governmental interference is needed to save the children, and their rights, from 'agression' by the 'free market'.

According to the Wikipedia editors, Rothbard both personally penned the modern version of the NAP itself, and literally created 'anarchism' itself (as well as coining the oxymoron ACism).

You have the floor. Tell us all about Anarchism, industrial unionism, direct action, the IWW, class warfare, etc.

Dude, all those things are well documented on the interwebs already. And all are well documented before we were born. What do you imagine I have personally to add?

You tell us.

Dude, it's not like I haven't tried. But everytime it's been maliciosly derailed by the ACist hyjack. You tell me how to stop that from happening... and I promise I'll try again.

In the mean time... none of this is a secret. And as I have mentioned, it has all been around since before we were born... so it really has nothing to do with me personally at all.

This is a thread on Anarchism, talk about Anarchism or gtfo.

I was trying... but you keep ignoring me. Unless you mean you wanna do a river banks, lending banks, Ernie Banks, Tyra Banks kinda caragory error type of thread. If not, how about responding to this...

Maybe you shouldn't list him as an influence if you haven't actually read anything by him. And there goes your paranoia again... tin foil hat much? Rothbard is so far out there, believe me, nobody needs to misrepresent his crapola...

Anyways, the quote was from the literal "bible" on 'anarchsim', Rothbard's Ethics of Liberty, chapter 14 (avialable full text on mises.org). And it's not just Rothbard, or any appeal to authority, not at all... I've never even heard of a libertarian type who didn't champion child labor. Like I said, if any of them were against child labor... they would be admitting that governmental interference is needed to save the children, and their rights, from 'agression' by the 'free market'.

According to the Wikipedia editors, Rothbard both personally penned the modern version of the NAP itself, and literally created 'anarchism' itself (as well as coining the oxymoron ACism).

Who gives a **** what wikipedia admins think about Rothbard?


Tell us all about how you are in class warfare with capitalists, but you live a good life thanks to capitalism and buy good products from capitalists.

Dude... by your definition of 'anarchist' ITT, that I agreed to use, I'm not an anarchist at all. In fact, only ACist are... and nobody else.

This is so idoitic, it blows my mind. First of all... do you really have no idea how Wikipedia works... none at all? Why don't we just substitute 'statist' for 'capitalist', and see how it reads...

Actually, the state is an intrusive leech on capitalism, both producers, and consumers. There are fascistic individuals who use the government for capitalistic advantages, and I think this is an abhorrent practice, and all the more reason to eliminate the government.

Can you please cite this agreement ITT?

You know what, MissileDog? Let's come to an agreement over the word Anarchsim ITT.

For now, let's let Anarchism mean the classical Anarchism you know and love. Then, after you tell us all about it, people can feel free to talk about Anarchism, however they see fit, according to whatever it means to them, like I was suggesting earlier.

So go ahead MissileDog, you have the floor. Tell us all about Anarchism!

Well that's very reasonable.

But I have other reasons for not talking about real world anarchism ITT. Or any other thread that also mentions ACism, hooliganism, Nilhism, Soveriegn Citizens, Militia types, or punk rockers who aren't actually conscious Anarcho-Punks. All these other uses of the word 'anarchism' are catagory errors (and visa-versa).

When I do wanna discuss real world anarchism I want readers, particularily lurkers, to be able to take the terms used in that thread and match them up with directly with real world usage, real world history, and with real world news. It's hard enough explaining stuff without the 'chaff' of idiocy of all these other unrelated uses of the same unfortunate word -- 'anarchism' coming into play.

That's why I refuse to answer to the dog-whistle of "ASism". Nobody in the real world uses that acroynm... so I don't want to mislead any lurkers into believing it ain't anything but what it is... a stupid interwebs only thingee used only by ACists on the interwebs.

Thank you for your reasonable suggestion here. What I keep asking for is the same reasonabilty in general... ACism should be discussed in ACist threads, and real world anarchism should be discussed in real world anarhism threads... and never the twain should mix.

So create another thread. You know there are no rules in this forum, right? They won't be merged.

That's not the problem. How to stop the ACist hyjack is the problem. And it's a lotta work doing an 'ask me' thread... I ain't going to be doing more than one per year.

lol once a year. What about all your ridiculous "why don't ACists wanna chat about ACism" nonsense? Once a ****ing year? You're a ****ing joke dude! hahahahahahahahaha

No, not at all.

ACists start, and hyjack, more than one thread per year. In every single one of those threads they refuse to discuss ACism.

Also, as I've said several times... I'm not magical, and I'm not 100s of years old. I'm not the only real world anarchist ITF. In fact, there are probably as many real world anarchists who PM me as there are ACists who regularily post here as such.

Why not start a "LirvA learns about real world anarchism thread" yourself?

Or as I have suggested... if this topic is something you are actually interested in, why not go out on the interwebs and read about it yourself. After doing your own research, feel free to PM me with any follow up Qs you may have.

Those threads wouldn't exist if they didn't want to discuss it. There have been thousands and thousands of posts on the subject of Anarcho Capitalism.





Why don't they ever post on the subject? Why don't Anarchists wanna chat about Anarchism?






I actually have done so, you, or no other syndicalists posted in it. I wonder why? Why don't Anarchists wanna chat about Anarchism?
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/41...alism-1225281/





I can't talk to Anarchists I read about in history. I've been trying to talk to you about Anarchism for years now, with complete avoidance from you, just like you've been doing in this thread JUST NOW!

Oh look, Lirva once again avoids meaningful discussion.

But we're the sheeple...

I do ocassionally. For instance, in the West, Texas thread.

Because you are trying to compare ACism -vs- real world anarchism. And that's a catagory error... as I've mentioned about 10000000x before.

You don't need to "talk to" people to learn something. I'm not magical. Don't you think that better writers than me have already done a better job of expressing the same exact ideas over the last about 200 years? Like I said, get off your lazy behind, do some reading... and if you have any follow up Qs go ahead and PM me.

Unless it's yours.