kaidas everywhere, its almost like they are ALL Quaedas

Somalia isn't AC utopia because of XYZ social factors, blah blah blah No True Scotsman rationale. Ok.

But what about examples of lawless contemporary American culture? Look what happens when a centralized governance is weak at best and a statist police presence is essentially removed.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/03/opinio...-rape-lawless/

Anarchy is best because people are so full of smiles and good will, right? Damn police and their brutality...just leave us alone!

Clearly ending capitalism before alternative productive strategies for survival are not only conceived,
but actually existing on sufficient scale, would more likely lead to collapse and a new
dark ages
than it would a fairer and more sustainable society. but, Hey I am nor ACist.

Where can I find me some of those hot terrorists?

You just need to find a hotty then
Per an executive order signed by Ronald Reagan in 1981, the CIA is allowed to collect
information about Americans. The details of the order are classified, so we can't be sure,
but it's a safe bet to assume that if the agency wants to spy on American dissidents,
it just calls them Terrorists.

Well, aren't you a bundle of joy.

So the government keeps tabs on people they think are anti-government? Like say those posting pro-anarchy propaganda on the internet?

How is a failure of the state to provide adequate policing an example of why anarchy will not work? This is a service on which the state holds a jealously guarded monopoly. If someone were to act independently to provide justice to the victim here they would themselves be criminally liable. No ACist is against having police! Absolutely, criminals must be dealt with. We are strongly opposed to crime, which is why we object to the systematic plunder which characterizes the state. What we want is not an end to police but rather justice being meted out by police provided by the market instead of being supplied (or not being supplied, as in your article) by the state.

Hard to propose a system worse for the less well off and for minorities than market based police.

North Korea ?

Possibly. Sort of trivial to get over the hurdle of being better than North Korea, 99%+ of existing states do that, so not really a strong point in favor of AC.

AC Land: "Possibly better than North Korea"

So the poor/stupid people will probably die. Okay then. But what are we left with? A lot of rich, intelligent, hardworking folk, that's what. You've got to think more long-term with these things.

Oh great, Goodman's back.

How's bottle service with the douchebag crew treating you?

Seems like you have a vision for a final solution.

EDIT: Also, why did you equate "less well off" and "minorities" with stupid?

As long as it's implemented through the market/natural selection and not genocide, I'm okay with it.

We have a Herbert Spencer fan ITT? Gotta love AC purists and their unabashed advocacy for (heinous) laissez faire capitalism. Survival of the fittest, amirite guys?

There's a reason this mindset is 100 years outdated, and that IRL contemporary advocates keep their mouth shut unless they're at an anonymous internet forum

I could at least understand the "(heinous) laissez faire capitalism" if it was actually what they were advocating. But without everyone starting with a level playing field I don't even understand their point. Do they really believe that someone born rich is some sort of greater benefit to society than someone born poor?

As a hard rule? Of course not. But on the aggregate, they tend to have higher IQs and tend to have inherited a little of their parents work ethic, ingenuity and leadership as well. Hence why ivy league schools, honors programs and investment banks tend to be filled with people who already came from rich/productive/intelligent parents. Is the correlation 1? Of course not. There are certainly diamonds in the rough as well as Paris Hiltons. But on the aggregate, this stuff is a lot more hereditary than people would like to accept, and as long as the correlation is above a 0, society would become smarter, more productive, more resourceful, etc. by instituting a true survival of the fittest meritocracy.

lol

Oh, so close. You almost said something that wasn't moronic.

Maybe try again next week.

I'm pretty confident society would become smarter, more productive, more resourceful, etc. if Goodman gets a vasectomy.

Honestly prefer the Hitler had the right idea, just wrong tactics approach to the usual ACist song and dance,

Why am I not surprised that you offer nothing more than an ipse dixit pronouncement to defend this claim? Under the system of state policing, police can, have and do presently run wild over the rights of minorities precisely because there is nothing that consumers can do when they are being mistreated by the police. There is simply no recourse for when your rights are violated under the present system, except, perhaps, if you are a rich and well connected (in which case, of course, your rights would probably not have been violated in the first place).

If there was a racist police force, ACME police, for example, in AC Land, that routinely violated the rights of minorities, then at the very least minorities could choose not to pay for their services. They could unsubscribe en masse and urge other right thinking non minorities to do the same. Businesses must be responsive to consumers but bureaucrats have absolutely no consumer for what they people they "serve" think, feel or say.