Perhaps they live together, as if married. Also, the white birth rate is very low - the majority of women aren't having children with multiple fathers.

I suppose it's meaningless to ask you for cites for all these stats you're pulling out of your ass?

From the guy who already has claimed the white race is the strong race? Id guess yes.

There isn't any wild conjecture going on here. They have a lower child poverty rate because they have transfers that go to parents of children, in cash transfers and also in state funded child care and health care. Americans have invented tales of poor black women having children with multiple fathers because black women are promiscuous and sinful instead of black women simply being rational actors just as any one else would be. Tales taken as evidence that cash transfers and state funded health care and child care won't work. They are excuses and nothing more, for selfish Americans to employ in order to deny other American citizens the care they deserve.

When comparing US poverty rates to other countries it is mostly comparing apples to oranges and is a worthless comparison.

The US poverty rate does not include all of the government payments that are designed to reduce poverty while everyone else includes such payments.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst.../#22f0a49327a1

The proof is in the pudding. The white race conquered and plundered for the last 1500 years. It's called "technology".

Just dealing with reality here. Don't really care, the country my parents are from didn't conquer anyone or anything, never had slaves, etc.

Feeling kinda lazy right now. Maybe I'll provide them later.

P.S. When so and so made the statement of Scandinavian countries having a high out of wedlock birthrate, I googled it to confirm.

lol outright white supremacists.

I never called them sinful. I'm an atheist.

Perhaps they've simply lost their way.

ow nose, u gut me again!!! I must run to home base, stromfront!

I mean, that's all your bringing here. Level zero white supremacy from a simple minded fool. Glad you are proud of it I guess, but educated people are just going to look down on you with a mix of laughter and disgust.

If I don't see things in ur SJW way, I'm a white supreeemacist, right?

:/

Not really. While it can be apples to oranges, it depends on which metric you use. If you use the LIS micro data then it takes in kind benefits such as food stamps, section 8 housing, energy subsidies and the like into account. On that measure the Nordic countries single poor kids/families have much more income than Americans.

You're missing the forest from the trees here. We can either treat the poor like rational people or we can tell ourselves they are welfare queens, young bucks, and lazy who simply can't be helped,or don't deserve help. None of which are true but are lies we tell ourselves so we can be comfortable denying the poor the resources they need.

I'm going to try to stay away from here. Pretty soon I won't be around anymore. I'm sorry for antagonizing you people.

Who exactly are "you people"???

jk. I hope Hue has given you some things to think about. I was enjoying the exchange between you two, but I can understand why you might want to leave. Education can be unsettling when it challenges the way you see the world.

I believe he left because he was worried about getting banned.

Given his join date and the way he has introduced himself, I kinda doubt that is much of a concern of his.

There is just no point in carrying on like this.

Please cite.

Your previous argument was about kids in poverty. Not who has more income. It is a matter if they are or are not in poverty. Pretty much every study of the poverty level, I have seen of the US deals with US poverty rates which is done pre-government transfers. Think Forbes did an estimate and after such payments and dropped it to 4-5% which would be in line with other countries. But even that seemed like a total guess.

You've only seen studies use the Official Poverty Metric and not the Supplemental Poverty Metric?

In any case, here is the PDF listing the income variables that go into the cash flow set. It lists virtually everything you can think of.

http://www.lisdatacenter.org/wp-cont...ables-list.pdf

Along with the LIS guidelines detailing out monitary vs non monitary transactions

http://www.lisdatacenter.org/wp-cont...guidelines.pdf

One issue though is there has to be a market value for the transfer to have meaning so things like free healthcare, free college, etc don't get counted, while food stamps, housing subsidies etc. do. This puts European countries at a disadvantage because you don't know the market subsidy that the poor are getting when they attend college for free ( if they do).

On an intuitive level it makes sense. The US spends very little, proportionally, on the poor and family benefits. If the market income of the poor can't increase to cover the lack of supplemental income then it would make sense that they don't have as much money.

I received an infraction today for insult (called someone a fool) and "thinly veiled racism". I guess that's VERY subjective. One more infraction and mbf is banned! So I guess since mods can be soooooo subjective, mbf is pretty much done! I guess I can try the TOR browser in the future :/ to come back as some other alt-right a-hole!

I sometimes go to a coffee shop that is swarming with the communist type. Honestly, these ppl interest me and I'd like to connect with them. In a way, I admire them.

If I'm banned because of this post, take care, c u arounders!

I don't get it. You aren't even just dogwhistling you are a straight up white supremecist. Why would it surprise you that a site that bans racism frowns on that?

I'm a complicated person - like many ppl. On one hand, I'm die hard right, on the other, I have a sympathy for the leftist and a desire to get to know them. But it all just comes out wrong