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So Wil, if you will not engage in honest conversation and will not explain why you feel that equating actual crimes by minorities in which they are arrested is an equivalence to a false reporting of a non existent crime, I can't answer your questions.

Wil said he was smarter than LG just yesterday as well. Wil, is there any poster in this forum that you would offer up as being more intelligent than you? There are tens of thousands of members here, if you're not the smartest here surely you can name one person?

There is a difference between a person being intelligent and a person making an intelligent argument. LG might, and probably is, actually smarter than me. That doesn't mean he has better arguments than me.

Of course, that's just opinion. I'm sure he thinks he's better than me in both categories, since he calls me an idiot. I'm totally fine with him beleiving that.

If you think I truly believe I'm the most intelligent person on 2+2 you're the one with the problem, not me. I'm not the smartest person in my house.

03-04-2017 , 02:25 AM

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Mat,

I'm Chump Change btw, the guy that used to mod BBV4L. I point this out to say that I've been on 2p2 for over a decade and I've always liked you, to the point that I've kinda avoided finding out if you're a trumper. It would be too disappointing. So, that said:

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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky

this is the comedy i was talking about. you think he's saying that in a serious manner?

he may hate you guys, as much as you can hate an internet persona, but it's clear to me he spends most of his time clowning around.

The most fascinating and horrifying thing to me about the trump phenomenon is that I now know these people are serious and are not clowning around. Literally, a big part of my worldview changed from Nov7 to Nov9, and all the trolling and joking had to be reevaluated.

Why wouldn't wil sincerely believe he's some sort of intellectual titan crushing people in noble battles of discourse? A fascist cartoon character is now our president. This is a brave new world.

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03-04-2017 , 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by wil318466

It's really, really warped. Your mind is broken, that just isn't a normal way to think. The problem is I really don't know how to get around it.

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Originally Posted by wil318466

Like, when I was 15 I started drinking and smoking. I really enjoyed both. Do you think I therefore support lowering the ages for both of those things because of my actions? Why or why not, and why is that different from me wanting to nail a 30 year old woman when I was 14?

Life comes at you fast for not knowing basic laws of consent!

Wil, you literally said yesterday you don't believe LG is smarter than you are. Do you now deny saying that? Do you want me to dig it up? Why are you backtracking on that?

03-04-2017 , 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky

i really wish we could all meet at a bar right now, in person, and get to the bottom of this. i'm assuming most of you get out to vegas once in awhile. we should try and make it happen. and record the whole thing.

I'd meet you, but if you think I'd agree to meet 5ive and aofrantic, especially without my bodyguards, you need to pass some of those drugs first.

I don't know which one of them scares me more. Not even joking. If I went out with just those two I would want a tracking device on me and a panic button. They ain't finding my head in no freezer. Nuh uh.

03-04-2017 , 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic

I believe my arguments are better than LG's. He probably is actually smarter than me. What's the issue?

03-04-2017 , 02:31 AM

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Just pointing out that contradicts your post from earlier today. One might call one of those then, a "lie."

03-04-2017 , 02:32 AM

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Can I remind everybody that I was the 1st person wil threatened with violence on 2p2, over 2 yrs back now?

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03-04-2017 , 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky

if true, it means it might be time to consider renaming this forum: Willy's World?

Much better title than P7, whatever the **** that means.

03-04-2017 , 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic

Just pointing out that contradicts your post from earlier today. One might call one of those then, a "lie."

You don't have to take everything literally, even though you seem to when it suits you're side, which makes you dishonest. I specifically told you I was linking bad data to make a point when I posted that religious data. You have never let up on that since, because you will not acknowledge the fact that I did it only to make a point.

It's because you are dishonest. Sorry.

03-04-2017 , 02:39 AM

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If you were "purposefully linking bad data," why was the post edited? If Chezlaw can confirm that your original post with the CAIRN link had you saying that the information you were presenting was wrong, I will apologize to you. But, this is a lie. Chezlaw can look this up, I'm pretty sure. If it was done on purpose, there wouldn't have needed any mod interaction, no?

Again Wil, that bet will be on the table literally all year. 2017, whoever can fact check each other for less lies. $200. I will not rescind this bet until December 31, 2017 I am that confident that I will never lie less than you do. (This include edited/deleted posts etcetc)

03-04-2017 , 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

Not autustic, just a standard ******

Autistic people generally give zero ****s what you think of them, which is completely at odds with wil's constant self-aggrandizement.

03-04-2017 , 02:47 AM

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who said this about trump:

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bsolutely not. I think he'd actually be a detriment. Businessmen are dangerous when it comes to running a country. They are focusing on only one aspect - catering towards businesses. That's inherently a very dangerous thing.

We know what businesses want - stability and confidence in the future. We know what they don't want - volatility and uncertainty, especially government intervention (political risk). They also want freedom, a relaxing of regulations. When regulations are relaxed we see businesses just go crazy and do whatever they can in order to maximize profits.

Maximizing their profits is essentially their goal. The principal - agent problem. CEO's are beholden to maximizing profits for their shareholders. That's their job. Their interests may not line up with the interests of other entities - like their governments. Indeed, we see companies do whatever they can to avoid paying taxes to the United States government. Morally, that's questionable, but legally if it's possible, they almost always avoid paying.

Government should never be "in bed" with business. Often they have conflicting goals. I know Trump has talked about the Chinese government multiple times. What is actually more important when dealing with a foreign government? Achieving political and strategic goals, or maximizing business partnerships? Can they be at odds? Absolutely.

There's a reason why so many politicians have backgrounds in law. It's because government policies have a huge trickle down effect. Many times laws have unintended consequences, that's why a background in law is so essential in successfully running a government. You don't want artists making laws, as much as you don't want lawyers making art.

As I've mentioned before, Alabama tried dealing with their migrant worker situation. It was a complete disaster. It's because they didn't consider all the different aspects of changing their laws. I'm afraid someone like Trump would blunder into something like that, except at a MUCH larger scale.

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03-04-2017 , 02:49 AM

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Can I remind everybody that I was the 1st person wil threatened with violence on 2p2, over 2 yrs back now?

lelele

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Originally Posted by 5ive

I lol'd but seriously I hope this doesn't happen as I believe Wil is an overall boon to these threads. He's a perfect case study and the genuine article because I don't believe he's just playacting the part of an open minded person on the internet, realizing it's a good look.

I do believe believe he lives in an integrated part of philly, has black friends, considers them the "good ones" and doesn't see anything wrong with that belief, and this is only the tip of the iceberg. Despite posting evidence I believe he does actually consider himself a paragon of colorblind virtue and is so lacking the self-awareness that would even allow a degree of cognitive dissonance to be introduced.

He's not the only one, and these are the people responsible for the state of race relations right now, but he is the one granting us semi-intimate access to the inner workings.

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Originally Posted by wil318466

The next time you are in Philadelphia, let me know when you're here. You can have an avid discussion with my "good black friends", calling me a racist in a public place, and we'll see what happens after that.

03-04-2017 , 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky

who said this about trump:

Yeah, that actually makes it worse that he ended up voting for him.

03-04-2017 , 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by wil318466

your bodyguards are invited as well, then.

03-04-2017 , 07:55 AM

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LOL, body guards, calling bull**** on that one!

Here's wil's body guards. I think. Not 100% sure. Pretty sure!

Spoiler:

POST #4000, pooping on wil. Had to be someone!

Wil is like the Arnold Schwarzenegger of the internet, except nobody voted for him, he just does it pro-bono. We all should aspire to be as tough as Arnold on the interwebs. I mean, I am sure wil's body guards do the typing at times. Pretty sure. Not 100% sure.

Time to pile on?

(NSFV)

Spoiler:

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03-04-2017 , 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky

but, my question was really to the mods of this forum. if willy stops posting, what will remain?

Not much. It's either wil, or it's Noodle's & Company. Perhaps I shouldn't have dumped on wil, just *body guards*, I mean, that's hilarious. I don't like Noodle's & Company not much. Sometimes it's okay, Chinese food.

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03-04-2017 , 08:41 AM

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i just realized why i like willy. he's a comedian from my viewpoint. one that makes me laugh.

i like comedians who make me laugh. even if they are chinese.

Trump's sort of the same way. When Trump says something like "Hillary belongs in jail", he doesn't really mean it, but it does wind-up being hilarious. It's almost all hyperbole. I don't think wil's really going to punch kids or whatever. Every other thread is about literally bringing up what Trump/wil said. It's all internet tough guy hilarity. I think everyone's taking it a bit too serious.

03-04-2017 , 08:46 AM

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The progressives are like, omgitsthetrumpwilpocolypsenowarmegeddon.jpg (while still wanting to ban guns), and well gooutside.poo and wtfrappachino.poopy

03-04-2017 , 09:12 AM

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With all the continued unsubstantiated claims of wil condoning pedophilia from a few hard core lefties on this site, I thought I would share a video of Faith Goldy shedding light on actual promotion of pedophilia and the sexualization of children coming from yep, you guessed it, the sick, demented minds of the regressive left...

NSFW

03-04-2017 , 10:51 AM

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This forum could use some more conservatives though. I haven't read Breitbart but how bad can it possibly be. Almost tempted to start reading... on second thought no it's just going to be Sean Hannity v7.0.

03-04-2017 , 01:30 PM

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Maybe we should all just post DailyKos, and Rachael Maddow until we all get so tired we want to collectively jump off a bridge.

add:

Oh wait, that already happened before election night! Lefties, don't ever change bro's, bra's!!!

Progressives are victims to the maintenance of the illusion of forward thinking ideas. Kind'a idiots, which is why they need to shift the discussion to personal attacks, etc. Not exactly grounded in reality. And this of course does not forgive the racistveil/bordertime on the USMEX front, which you know, the economy isn't as great as the numbers indicate hence the scapegoating of immigrants and the new DT era. Mostly I just want to poop.

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03-04-2017 , 02:49 PM

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Time for more Red Green folks

03-04-2017 , 03:58 PM

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Both Jalfrezi and Kerowo seem to have an unnatural obsession with little girls.

Honestly I would never let either of them close to my nieces and my friends children. Straight up creepy dudes.

03-04-2017 , 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HastenDan

Both Jalfrezi and Kerowo seem to have an unnatural obsession with little girls.

Honestly I would never let either of them close to my nieces and my friends children. Straight up creepy dudes.

You've obviously missed the series of posts where a well known advocate of punching kids in the face came out as a defender of paedophilia - not surprising that those two are found together in people, mind you.

Or maybe you're comfortable with child molestation?

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