Howard these stories really aren't about you. They're about you seeming to be amazed at the mere concept that black people exist who aren't thieves and murderers. Like yeah, we know that. It's not a revelation. 'I'm such a nice non racist person that this big black guy (who we all know are congenitally inclined to be rapists and murderers) didn't even beat me up once no matter how much his genetics made him want to.' The inherent assumptions in your stories give the whole game away.

I actually dont think Howard is more racist than your average 60+ white man. Ill bet back in the 60s he was considered relatively progressive for opposing de jure segregation. That would explain his bemusement at being called racist today.

Uh, this isn't the first time ole Howie has favored the forum with his thoughts on the issue. Did you know that?

Still, kioshk, LOL at you. The vicious unpleasantness isn't the calls for martial law or the bizarre assortment of racist anecdotes, it's the dudes who call a racist a racist?

Howard's previous posts about Stop and Frisk were ****ing atrocious, he gleefully mocked the concept of black people getting racially profiled. He thought that was the funniest **** he had ever heard of.

We know ALL about Howie's history of being a slumlord in NYC. He loves telling us these meandering stories, in between jokes about institutional racism and or expressions of admiration for Sheriff Joe and D'Souza and ****.

Sure, I agree. But keep up. It's not that tough.

You missed what I was getting at...

Your guys' argument against stop and frisk is their rights are being violated.

As if nobody's rights are completely trampled on in this ever increasing fascist state of ours. I wasn't talking about racism 80 years ago. I was talking about your argument against blacks rights being violated with stop and frisk would have been a good argument 80 years ago. But now in 2014 fascist America you guys are making the argument that their rights are ring violated? El oh el.

tomdemaine, the psycho-analyst! I walked the streets of the South and West Bronx for years. I don't think that you would've gotten out of the car w/o ****ting your pants.

I once hired a Black guy as a superintendent. His nickname was 'Gunner', lol. Another Black super (a member of the Nation of Islam, btw) said 'we didn't think that he could EVER get a job', lolololol. I went to his wedding, too. Turned out to be a pretty good super, too, until he provided an alibi for a bank robber (said he was working w/ him in the building at the time of the robbery). I got subpoenaed to appear in Federal court to refute that. So, as soon as Gunner saw me he recanted and then asked to borrow $20 which I gave him and told him 'btw, you're fired' and he said 'I know.'

So I like telling stories from those years. You should read my 60th B-Day thread, it's got a lot of good ones.

As an aside the prosecutors told me that they had to put the robber behind bars, he was very dangerous and said that he was going to kill all of the witnesses. So I said 'And I'm a witness, thanks a lot.' lolololololol……..

Provide an example of me gleefully mocking the concept of black people getting racially profiled and that it was the funniest **** I've ever heard of and I will donate $100 to your favorite charity.

Slumlord, lol. I've got a National award and been in NY Mag (as I've mentioned) along w/ other publications and you have done what to provide decent housing for poor people?

Also:

Howard,
1) http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1156
I went looking for your Men's Wearhouse joke and found I had already curated up an anthology of the last time you favored us with the "I'm a worthless racist coward and I'm literally dumbfounded people don't approve of Stop and Frisk" argument.

2) After I posted a story about a white guy in a suit going around trying to get arrested and failing,

HILARIOUS

I'll repeat myself from that thread, with new emphasis:
...
So you've been nursing that grudge, you seen something in your stories about Chicago getting 14 people shot, and saw your opportunity to get back on the horse of martial ****ing law.

Those laughing emoticons were directed at you for being you.

That needs to be instituted down there for sure. ABSOLUTELY!

You can make the check out to Goodwill, that seems appropriate.

Howard, Donald Sterling got a national award as well. Congrats.

Nah, that was mocking whoever it was I was replying to. Besides, I donate so much stuff to Goodwill it's absurd. My mother puts up a fight a lot of the time and my answer is is that if we haven't used something in a couple of years we don't need it. You'd think that after all of this shipping stuff off to Goodwill the house would look emptier, right? But it doesn't.

Goodwill has some suspicious practices when it comes to paying disabled people for the work they do for them.

IMA post mine as soon as the camera's battery is charged and if I can edit out the identifying info (a big if in my case). Let's see which one looks better!

Here's another story that demonstrates why these awards are given out: The head of my outfit got all kinds of awards, a really ridiculous number. One of the reasons that non-profits give out awards is bec the recipient almost always makes a decent sized donation. One year I was 'forced' to attend the Albert Einstein College of Medicine's annual banquet which I couldn't get out of bec they insisted that they wanted to make sure that the seats were filled and I couldn't get away by just making a donation. So I had to buy 4 tickets and invited two women to go w/ me. They gave 3 awards. First awardee donated $50K!!!!! JFC! $50K! Next two $25K each. Good lord! Then they actually handed around a pledge sheet for all of the prison…..errr, I mean guests, could fill out an amount that they would donate. I just handed mine along unfilled bec $200 wasn't going to do it.

The next day I tell the boss 'If Einstein hospital wants to give you an award decline w/e you do. W/E you do don't agree and I explained why. Sure enough they came around 6 months later and I listened in while the rep incredulously asked why he was being turned down so emphatically. loooooool.

Shocking that America turned fascist to Silverman right about January 2009.

They also don't charge nearly enough for what they're selling, iyam. I donated really nice long sleeved shirts that they priced at $5. TBH, lately we've simply been giving a lot of stuff to the cleaning ladies bec they can make good use of it.

Reagan had such a terrible signature.

NYC went through a time period in the late 80's and early 90's when it averaged 40+ homicides weekly.

He could have worn a white sheet to the NAACP events honoring him and they still would have given him the award with the amount of money he was hooking them up with.

You're really going to welsh on a $100 charity bet? Might be time to step back and re-examine yourself.

I did not know that. Howard, can you make the check out to the ACLU instead?

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Anything that leads to giving money to the ACLU is ok in my book.

Yeah, you are kind of making my point