Sounds like you've got a ready audience for your stop & frisk policies. Why not stop bugging us about it on the internet and tell all your Black* friends you've got a plan! Maybe you can actually make a positive change in your community.


* - Fly's capitalization rule in full effect.

Not weird, it's one of his signature moves - off the top of my head I can think of 3:

1 - Think of a lol situation where race roles are reversed and say he wouldn't be racist in that situation
2 - Point out that a liberal was once racist, or that there are other instances of racism apart from his own words that liberals aren't crying about
3 - When all else fails say something like 'ok and if I'm racist.....so what? Who cares'

I'm not even joking about 3.

This all stems from the issue with the monetary system. There will always be huge losers (poverty stricken blacks) and big winners (rich corporate whites) and then everyone else in between. The big winners control the fate of the losers, and in order for them to keep winning they need to keep playing the same game they've been playing all this time. They are in no hurry to solve poverty and end gun violence in this country, they're too busy lining their pockets.

Apparently everyone's fine with it though, because they keep voting their henchmen into office every election year.

My step 1 to solving gun violence: eliminate campaign contributions from corporations, who are essentially running this country into the ground.

I left NY 19 years ago and moved to Metro-Phoenix which doesn't have a very large Black population percentage wise and I'm not in my former business anyway. You would doubtless be highly amused that I'm living in a nearly all white town now although I doubt that there are 20 Jews amongst them.

The charges of racism are having zero effect on me except for curiosity. Perhaps curiosity is the wrong word bec I sort of know why it's being hurled but confirmation, although nearly worthless bec it would be so standard and uninformed, would be appreciated.

And what would you do w/o me? Here I am w/ my internet hobby and am providing stimulating and interesting content for your enjoyment. Do you really just want an Amen Chorus? That would be very boring, imo.

I said that he is interesting and fun which he is. One thing that I've learned about SM is that he's not shy. If somebody's holding up the game he's going to hear about it from him in no uncertain terms which is something I'm not capable of.

Now Silvermans anecdotes where he says "I asked five guys at the poker table today about stupid idea x and they all agreed with me" make soooo much more sense.

Did he try to trade silver instead of fiat cash for poker chips?

My kind of takeaway from it was that Bangledesh isn't a "white country" so they should be fine being discriminated against. Kinda like how he thinks the US is a white country (not just in the demographic sense).


The the fact that there's like 180 million guns running around has nothing to do with it? I mean, I agree with your step one, but I'm not sure how it relates.

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Sounds like you think they are violent and aggressive. Interesting.

Howard- Why do you think so many people think you're a racist?

What? Do you think we call each other up and conspire to write nice posts about each other for you jagoffs in this forum to raise our 2+2 reputation?

It's one thing to call me racistsexisthumanist blah blah blah blah blah, because I don't care and to a certain degree it is true in certain instances.

But then to see HB labeled a racist when he is a very nice man, very unassuming, and pretty smart....... It just confirms to me what I have been saying from the beginning....... That you guys set the racist label so ridiculously low, and that you are mostly a bunch of race obsessed nutjobs.

Like wow, HB wants to discuss a policy for a certain area where murders are rampant and the people in the area happen to be black, shame on you HB for caring about the innocent kids dying pretty much daily.

I saw on the news 2 days ago that the KKK was going door to door in a far south suburb of Chicago to recruit people. I'll make sure to contact them tomorrow and tell them I have a perfect cyclops candidate they can fly in from phoenix az. Smh.

Probably because WE CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! [salutes]

Breaking news: a racist doesn't think that another racist is racist.

I was just making a point to your above response.



To your bottom one. What % of legal gun owners murder people?

180 million guns..... Yet how many are killed by guns? And how many killed are killed by legal fun owners?

Or how about this? Out of all the murders on the south side of Chicago in a given Year. What percentage of those murders are done by people who are owning then legally. Guess what? I bet it isn't many of them.

Howard and Silver_Man being mutual character witnesses is just too perfect. LOL what a brain trust those games must be

What a joke you are. A few ppl on this forum call me a racist which means to your pea brain that so many ppl away from here call me a racist. I really do wish that I could take you back in my Delorean so that I could have actual Black ppl laugh in your face.

That is a slippery slope I don't hope to ever see tackled. Why should 9 appointed, not even elected, judges, be able to re-write something our founding fathers thought strongly enough to put immediately after Free Speech?

I'd start by making sure all guns have access to education, then maybe the guns will stop being so violent. OR you could idk, prosecute criminals, enforce laws already on the books, invest money into youth programs to try to get the next generation out of the gang lifestyles that are so popular today.

Either you were a lot less racist back then, or they all also thought you were racist. IDK which. Given your ability to relay a simple anecdote, I don't believe you, basically. I mean, FFS, you told a story ITT about black community leaders NOT endorsing Stop and Frisk in a MUCH HIGHER CRIME ERA, and somehow thought that they meant they would support it now.

But you didn't answer my question. It's like half a dozen people just on this page of this thread, openly calling you a racist to your face. Right to your face! No hedging, no nothing, just a bunch of dudes making fun of how racist ole' Howard Beale is.

Why do you think so many people think you're a racist?

It wouldn't be a rewrite. Its be a reinterpretation of a fairly ambiguous statement. If they had left out the first clause of the 2nd amendment it would be much less nebulous. Nonetheless I actually agree with you, im not a fan of judicial veto of laws.


Why do you think "gang lifestyles" are so popular and who are they popular with?

Fwiw, I was on the boards of a local community organization, the Chair of a non-profit mental health clinic and on the board of a very fine community center that ran all sorts of after school and educational programs. I'm sure that these made some difference but the problem is huge, too huge for the resources being spent on it and some of it is misguided for a variety of reasons.

I said that the topic of Stop and Frisk never came up so there was no question of the community leaders endorsing it or not. I know that I never thought of it and nobody else ever brought it up. But somehow you read into that that the Black community leaders did not endorse what was never offered up. How can you explain such a lack of comprehension? To me it's clear that you see through an irreplaceable, impenetrable biased lens. You do not read to understand, you don't think, you don't mull things over, you simply react in a very boring and predictable way. Why not change it up a little? Find some new phraseology, do something so that, when I read your replies I don't think that you shouldn't have bothered since I could write them for you.

As for your insistence on an answer to your second point I think that I'm being called a racist on this board by a number of ppl right to my face bec they think that I'm a racist. It doesn't bother me in the least since they are reflective of a bias in the typical 2p2 politics poster. If you brought the conversation to a broader audience you would find different results and I would then be able to ask you why you thought so many ppl were calling you an imbecile.

ETA: I was INVITED to the meetings that I mentioned, invited for a reason. I was invited along (and wish I hadn't gone) to go w/ a delegation from The Northwest Bronx Community and Clergy Coalition to lobby in Albany for a reason. I was asked to be on the boards of the groups I mentioned for a reason. I was asked to be on the board of the local Urban League (had to decline bec I was overwhelmed) for a reason. I had local politicians calling me for help for a reason. I was featured in an article in NY Magazine for a reason, as well as being in the NYT and the Daily News. I have an Award for National Excellence for a reason.

I mentioned 'actual Black person' and I have many in mind but the most 'interesting' one might be the guy in his 20's who looked like one of those huge Black men you see in prison movies, the type that would make you just kill yourself and get it over with if you were put in a cell w/ him. I used to hand out w/ him regularly, shot the breeze, etc. Then one day he was on the cover of the NY Post bec he'd killed 3 ppl in a shoe store robbery. I hung out w/ him for years, alone. He knew I had money on me. He was never anything but friendly w/ me. Why didn't he rob me? It would've been a lot easier. I put it down to the fact that he knew and liked me. I wish that I could take you back in time to that guy so you could tell him that I am a racist. Frankly I think you'd **** your pants first.

Take a stab at what percentage of the guns used in Chicago crimes were originally purchased legally.

You guys need to take it easy on Howard. After all he's not a racist, he just doesn't think black people need all of their rights.