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14 dead in Chicago: Give Stop and Frisk a try? 14 dead in Chicago: Give Stop and Frisk a try?
View Poll Results: Try Stop and Frisk?
Yes
6 19.35%
No
25 80.65%

07-09-2014 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
Stop and Frisk? How bout Roland Martin's suggestion of sending in the national guard? http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...to-chiraq.html
What is the difference between the national guard and the Chicago pd? The Chicago pd has machine guns, riot gear, miltary uniforms, APC's, helicopters and just about every other thing the military would use in that situation. Also to deploy the national guard is insane.
07-09-2014 , 02:17 PM
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The Chicago police clearly recommended reasonable changes to state gun laws, but who cares, lets quote the police chief to try and support an argument he didn't make, twist his words, mock other who are literate and point out the twisting of the police' words, express regret that we can't just take civil rights from "those people" that deserve it and have to inconvenience people in "good neighborhoods", and drop another super convenient unverifiable anecdote or two
FYP to more accurately describe what happened in this thread
07-09-2014 , 04:32 PM
It's always cute when racists quote black crime numbers and ignore the poverty basically = crime and subsequently ignore WHY there's so many poor black people. You're making an argument against yourself you pieces of ****.
07-09-2014 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
It's always cute when racists quote black crime numbers and ignore the poverty basically = crime and subsequently ignore WHY there's so many poor black people. You're making an argument against yourself you pieces of ****.
then I guess the crime rate in Appalachia must be through the roof (probably a lot of guns there too). I will check the numbers and report back.
07-09-2014 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bicho
then I guess the crime rate in Appalachia must be through the roof (probably a lot of guns there too). I will check the numbers and report back.
Have you heard of "meth" before?

Of course, I bet when you come back you aren't going to post the numbers that black people go to jail at higher rates for drug crimes than white people despite similar rates in usage. LOWER CRIME RATE! (because white people get off easy)
07-09-2014 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
It's always cute when racists quote black crime numbers and ignore the poverty basically = crime and subsequently ignore WHY there's so many poor black people. You're making an argument against yourself you pieces of ****.
Poverty does not equal crime.
07-09-2014 , 05:15 PM
i didnt event think about all the drugs. the murder rate there must be insane

poors + guns + drugs = murder rate 5 10, 15 times the national average?

i will look up the numbers after the game
07-09-2014 , 05:15 PM
I can't figure out how to put these graphs up but the Rapes, assaults, burgleries and arson in Appalachia is pretty consistantly much higher then the US average.

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime...-Virginia.html
07-09-2014 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bicho
i didnt event think about all the drugs. the murder rate there must be insane

poors + guns + drugs = murder rate 5 10, 15 times the national average?

i will look up the numbers after the game
You're being far too generous, probably 20.

Spoiler:
btw, how large is the biggest city in Appalachia, dumbass?
07-09-2014 , 06:22 PM
and yet somehow the violent crime in the Mississippi Delta is twice the national average.
07-09-2014 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
You're being far too generous, probably 20.

Spoiler:
btw, how large is the biggest city in Appalachia, dumbass?
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in people? 27. In total number of teeth 39

07-09-2014 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
It's always cute when racists quote black crime numbers and ignore the poverty basically = crime and subsequently ignore WHY there's so many poor black people. You're making an argument against yourself you pieces of ****.
This is not to the point of the subject in my OP. My point is that there are a great many mostly minority people being killed and maimed RIGHT NOW. You can go on about poverty and racism but that doesn't help those people right now when it comes to this particular topic.

Suppose that I suggest at least having a discussion about Stop and Frisk w/ the minority community to see if there is a way of structuring it that they would support w/ perhaps a city wide referendum. Is that unreasonable to you?
07-09-2014 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
This is not to the point of the subject in my OP. My point is that there are a great many mostly minority people being killed and maimed RIGHT NOW. You can go on about poverty and racism but that doesn't help those people right now when it comes to this particular topic.
I honestly think it'd be sadder if your POV wasn't an attempt to justify your racism
07-09-2014 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SmokeyJ
I honestly think it'd be sadder if your POV wasn't an attempt to justify your racism
What makes you think that I'm a racist?
07-09-2014 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
This is not to the point of the subject in my OP. My point is that there are a great many mostly minority people being killed and maimed RIGHT NOW. You can go on about poverty and racism but that doesn't help those people right now when it comes to this particular topic.

Suppose that I suggest at least having a discussion about Stop and Frisk w/ the minority community to see if there is a way of structuring it that they would support w/ perhaps a city wide referendum. Is that unreasonable to you?
Don't let us stop you, Howard. Go right on into the nearest gathering of black people and tell them about your exciting new plan to stop violence. Let us know what their response is!
07-09-2014 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
What makes you think that I'm a racist?
Reading your posts
07-09-2014 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Like, the problem with Stop and Frisk was EMPHATICALLY not that they weren't abusing white people's civil liberties too. It's that they were abusing anyone's.

This is ****ing America, people. There will be violence and crime. Martial law would reduce it. We still don't go with martial law, because are you ****ing out of your mind? There are a couple of steps between "eh, what are you going to do?" and "cavity searches at every El station".

P.S. Again, note, none of these arguments for cracking down on "Chiraq" come from people actually in Chicago. The Chicago police clearly recommended reasonable changes to state gun laws, but who cares, let's ignore him and institute MARTIAL ****ING LAW in our 3rd biggest city.

FFS, not to go all Tea Party on y'all, but that is as unAmerican as you can get.
Exactly this.
07-09-2014 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
What makes you think that I'm a racist?
Your racism?
07-09-2014 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
DudeImBetter- More or less pathetic than when you wrote an email to RAINN asking if colleges should be prohibited from disciplining accused rapists?
Bold faced lying is always fun. Fly FTW #1 GOAT tactic.

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Originally Posted by FlyWf
LOL DudeImBetter trying to talk down to people. The pro-rape guy? The "has no ****ing idea what he's talking about" guy? The "makes a gazillion threads desperately begging for attention" guy...
1. See above.

2. IDK what I'd do if I was generally regarded as the WOAT poster in a forum where I dedicate hours and hours of time every day, and TENS of THOUSANDS of posts' worth of material.

I'd probably project all over the place too. You know, try to ease that pain a bit.

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Originally Posted by FlyWf
He were trying to be friendly you ****ing moron. You almost were on the verge of having a normal human interaction with someone. For Christ's sake.
Were he? Were he REALLY? Well if he were, I weren't have realized it because I guess I'm not aware that Colombians are regarded as relatively attractive.

Relative to the women of which countries, I wonder? IDK. It's almost as if I don't care to attend to the racial stereotypes that apparently exist IRT which women are more/less attractive than others.

But you're right dude, I were totally the racist/sexist moron in this conversation. You f***ing nail it time and time again. You're an ALL STAR.
07-09-2014 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Don't let us stop you, Howard. Go right on into the nearest gathering of black people and tell them about your exciting new plan to stop violence. Let us know what their response is!
I've attended community meetings composed of mostly minority attendees more times than I can count. The topic of violence in the community was one of many although nobody ever mentioned anything like Stop and Frisk.

I really wish you could've been w/ me, you would've been surprised at how conservative Black folks are esp when it comes to crime. You are flying blind, you don't know if they would support some form of Stop and Frisk or not.
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Originally Posted by SmokeyJ
Reading your posts
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Originally Posted by Dids
Your racism?
Specifics?
07-09-2014 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DudeImBetter
What's up with your hard-on when it comes to this practice, which almost necessarily involves racial profiling?
Such a sensitive little puppy. More people dead > butthurt feelings from racial profiling.
07-09-2014 , 09:16 PM
If I lived in Bangladesh and 10% of the population was white, and close to if not more than half the murders were committed by white people. Not only would I not give a **** if the cops wanted to stop and frisk me but if I spotted a cop who hadn't yet seen me I would willingly go up to him and let me frisk me.

Hashtagwhogivesa**** you sensitive souls?
07-09-2014 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
Your racism?

I play poker with HB.......

I see it in his eyes every time that we play poker together, that if he could only wear a white sheet over his body while playing that all would
Be right in the world.

You are a ****** dids. Just shut up.
07-09-2014 , 09:23 PM
Silverman: Brave enough to say black people should have their 4, 14 and probably other constitutional rights violated to save lives(except the evidence that it would do so is scant) but completely unwilling to compromise on the thing that we know would save lives since it does in every other civilized country.

I found that thing about Bangladesh bizarre. What a weird example.
07-09-2014 , 09:26 PM
Sweet SM has found the thread, pulling off one of his trademark moves only 2 posts deep.

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Originally Posted by Silver_Man2
I play poker with HB.......
Funny you say that, I saw HB post a while ago that he plays poker with you and you're a good dude, and I thought lol how perfect.

      
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