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12-12-2017 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DSL22
I'd rather not wait for them to screw it up the way they did with the Saturday schedule.
Fight the good fight....

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12-12-2017 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
I put tournaments that people like so they come back and play everyday.
If people like $30 MTT's so much, why did your $30 MTT with $15-20k overlay 2 times this week? That's just what I happened to see and I didn't check every day. I haven't been on your site much in the past year and I've seen it overlay at least a dozen times. I wouldn't be surprised if you guys have lost 6 figures on that tournament this year. I mean...I'm not on the site that much and I've seen you lose about $20,000 in profit on that tournament.

Clearly people don't like $30 tournaments that much because they're consistently overlaying and failing to meet the guarantees. And, your response to this is to put up 3 of them on the same day and ignore the $11 MTT's that crush their guarantee every day???

A few dozen cheerleaders with poms poms on 2 +2 isn't as significant as actual market numbers. The numbers are against you and the numbers don't lie. You guys keep acting like I'm "arguing" a point. There is no argument guys. The numbers show that you're wrong. The argument is over. This isn't a matter of opinion. If you can't show one single overlay in an $11 over the past year (which, you can't), then you don't have an argument. It doesn't matter how many of you show up to the thread with your poms poms. You'll keep getting proven wrong with the overlays.

So, here's what I'll do. I'll stop posting in this thread entirely. The next time I see an overlay in a $30 MTT I'm going to make a new thread with a screenshot of the overlay and show how much of a failure these tournaments are in meeting their guarantees. I'll actually track how much money you're losing.

Last edited by DSL22; 12-12-2017 at 11:36 AM.
12-12-2017 , 01:51 PM
Why are you so entitled to WPN giving you exactly whatever tournaments you like? They are a business trying to make money. They'll do their best to achieve that goal whether that helps you or not. If you don't like WPN's schedule, then you should vote with your feet and wallet. Play on Bovada, Carbon, or any other US-facing site, or don't play at all. No one is forcing you to play on WPN.
12-12-2017 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by zoogenhiem
Why are you so entitled to WPN giving you exactly whatever tournaments you like? They are a business trying to make money. They'll do their best to achieve that goal whether that helps you or not. If you don't like WPN's schedule, then you should vote with your feet and wallet. Play on Bovada, Carbon, or any other US-facing site, or don't play at all. No one is forcing you to play on WPN.
Bovada doesn't sync up their breaks. So, I don't give them business because of it. I think that's a terrible way to treat paying customers. Making it difficult to use the restroom??? Really?? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of in online poker history. Betonline does the same thing with non-synced breaks. So, I boycott them, as well. At this point, sites should be having synchronized meal breaks for MTT players of 20-30 minutes. They've been having a lot of technical difficulties lately according to their players in their thread, as well. That makes it even more unappealing.

WPN's software has been solid lately. The only problem I can think of was one client crash last night while playing 6 cash game tables, but I was able to return to my tables without any issues. I wouldn't even play in the $11 MTT's I'm requesting as I hate the structures. I just want more new players on the site in cash games and small tournaments are the way you attract them to the site. It attracts more fish to the site when you have big guarantees with small buy ins. It gives them bank rolls when they bink final tables and then they come lose them in low/mid-stakes cash games where I play. This increases profits for low/mid-stakes players. I don't even really play MTT's anymore (from time to time) because of how terrible these structures are on WPN. There's not enough money in the prize pool for me to be motivated to sit there for 10-12 hours. 15K

Compare to the structures to Pokerstars in 2009. You could play in $3,$5, and $10 rebuys that had $50-60K in the pot and only took 9 hours to complete. These structures on WPN force you to sit there for 10-12 hours for $10-20K and buy in for $10-30. Those are terrible stuctures. These structures chased away a lot of MTT regs from the pre-Black Friday days. That's why we don't play MTT's on WPN. We hate the structures. It's not the government's fault that WPN chased away a lot of MTT regs from the pre-Black Friday Pokerstars days. That's WPN's fault. These structures on WPN actually TILT me before the first card is dealt. The quality of my MTT play declined on WPN cuz I so tilted by their horrible structures and small guarantees for higher buy ins.

Pokerstars days in 2009= Pre-flop pushing early on with post flop play in the late stages.

WPN structures in 2017= A lot of post flop play in the early stages with nothing, but pre-flop pushes in the late stages.

WPN has it backwards. The post flop play should be taking place in the later stages of the tournament and that's not what happens.

I've been banned from Carbon...I think. I can't log into my account there anymore, at least. Even when resetting my password. Been a year, or so since I've tried to log in there. Plus, they're too small for MTT's these days. They ruined themselves by banning players and taking too long process cash outs. Which, is a shame because they had the best software easily.

Last edited by DSL22; 12-12-2017 at 02:37 PM.
12-12-2017 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DSL22
A few dozen cheerleaders with poms poms on 2 +2 isn't as significant as actual market numbers. The numbers are against you and the numbers don't lie. You guys keep acting like I'm "arguing" a point. There is no argument guys. The numbers show that you're wrong. The argument is over. This isn't a matter of opinion. If you can't show one single overlay in an $11 over the past year (which, you can't), then you don't have an argument. It doesn't matter how many of you show up to the thread with your poms poms. You'll keep getting proven wrong with the overlays.
This is why you're one of the worst posters to come along in a while. No one is arguing against boosting $11 guarantees in fact basically everyone would be happy about that. For whatever reason you want to make everyone an enemy fighting against $11s, what people are fighting against is the toxic vitriol you are using with just about every post.
12-12-2017 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Thrash370
This is why you're one of the worst posters to come along in a while.
Pretty sure he posts under a new name about every 6 months after being banned for spouting off about this exact thing over and over.
12-12-2017 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Thrash370
This is why you're one of the worst posters to come along in a while. No one is arguing against boosting $11 guarantees in fact basically everyone would be happy about that. For whatever reason you want to make everyone an enemy fighting against $11s, what people are fighting against is the toxic vitriol you are using with just about every post.

Well, then agree with it and request it.

This isn't a minor little issue. This site has jerked around for the past 5 years and needs to hurry up and bump the guarantees up.

This company's decisions has had a negative impact on the poker market in America and that's the last thing American players need is having poker sites making bad decisions after the government made atrociously horrible, god awful decisions. So far, we've had 4 poker sites make piss poor decisions in America.

It's not a game...It's a financial market. When you make poor decisions you have a negative impact on people's lives. You understand that? Your over here telling me to go play on other sites. There are no other sites. The only other choice is to end relationships with friends/family and leave the country. That's the other choice. That's the end result of the decisions this company has made.

Last edited by DSL22; 12-12-2017 at 05:16 PM.
12-12-2017 , 05:16 PM
So a Million GTD weekly is jerking around?
12-12-2017 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
So a Million GTD weekly is jerking around?
Yes, it's a pipedream. It's a hobby tournament, bro.

52 online MT tournaments a year is a hobby, not a profession.

Online poker is about playing THOUSANDS of tournaments a year to bink multiple final tables a year and stick to proper bankroll management in the process. Most Americans don't even have $1,000 in the bank and you want them to stick $300 a week into a tournament with low chances of return? People are living paycheck to paycheck. That's how things are in the real world. You'll get a lot of regs from other sites like Stars showing up, but you're not doing anything special with the Million to attract new American players. You need micro-stakes MTT's with big guarantees to do that and you don't have them.

A million dollar tournament is a weekly lottery ticket. One I'll be purchasing, but a lottery ticket nonetheless. It's very easy to play 52 tournaments and not even cash one time. I'm personally focusing on moving out of the country thanks to you guys and the US government isn't to blame for that anymore. It was at one time, but not anymore. I'll bet Pokerstars LOVES you guys, Bovada, Carbon, and Betonline for being so incompetent. None of you know what you're doing at all and they'll stay at the top forever because of it. You guys had the biggest single online poker market in the world handed to you by the US government in 2011 and you blew it. You totally blew it. You chased all the players away with terrible structures and horrible decisions. All of you did. Not just your company.

Every one of your companies tried to reinvent the wheel after 2011 and all you had to do was copy it.

Last edited by DSL22; 12-12-2017 at 05:48 PM.
12-12-2017 , 05:55 PM
well i will give you credit for one thing..

Your good to give me a laugh in the day.

its been fun but i cant respond anymore to your comments. Just wait and see what 2018 brings
12-12-2017 , 06:03 PM
So, splitting people up from their friends and family with your poor decisions makes you laugh, huh?

I can see why it took you 7 years to get a Million up.

Good luck in 2018. I'm looking forward to it.
12-12-2017 , 06:39 PM
Lol, if you act this way around family, I'm sure they'd be happy to help you pack. You aren't even irritating at this point, you're comedy.

In all fairness to the thread, they should delete all this nonsense and ban you if you continue. WPN announces a dramatic increase to their worst day of the week schedule and it has turned into asinine drivel.

Bobo could check IP addresses, I bet the over/under on the amount of times you've been banned is 4.5

"So, splitting people up from their friends and family with your poor decisions makes you laugh, huh?"

That is classic! WPN doesn't have a bigger GTD for a $10 game and now you have to move....it sure makes me laugh.
12-12-2017 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by a dewd
Lol, if you act this way around family, I'm sure they'd be happy to help you pack. You aren't even irritating at this point, you're comedy.

In all fairness to the thread, they should delete all this nonsense and ban you if you continue. WPN announces a dramatic increase to their worst day of the week schedule and it has turned into asinine drivel.

Bobo could check IP addresses, I bet the over/under on the amount of times you've been banned is 4.5

"So, splitting people up from their friends and family with your poor decisions makes you laugh, huh?"

That is classic! WPN doesn't have a bigger GTD for a $10 game and now you have to move....it sure makes me laugh.
No, it's because they lack dozens of tournaments weekly that would've been there had the site been run properly. Dozens of tournaments weekly that Americans will never have access to again. Unless, they move out of the country, of course.

Have fun on WPN. It's a cute little site serving a cute little country with a cute little online poker market. So adorable.
12-12-2017 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DSL22
No, it's because they lack dozens of tournaments weekly that would've been there had the site been run properly. Dozens of tournaments weekly that Americans will never have access to again. Unless, they move out of the country, of course.

Have fun on WPN. It's a cute little site serving a cute little country with a cute little online poker market. So adorable.
Plus, I don't really see much of a future for this site.

Need I remind you 3 sites were shut down in this country 6 years ago? You don't think that's gonna happen again? Black Friday 2.0 is on the horizon.
12-12-2017 , 08:33 PM
Ok man... time to request you stop posting. This is a massive deal what we are doing and all your negativity is just insane. Please stop posting here
12-12-2017 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
Ok man... time to request you stop posting. This is a massive deal what we are doing and all your negativity is just insane. Please stop posting here
Any other days ready to preview?
12-13-2017 , 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by a dewd
Bobo could check IP addresses, I bet the over/under on the amount of times you've been banned is 4.5
Well, the answer is 5, that I know of, so that's a pretty solid line.

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Originally Posted by DSL22
That's the plan. Until your glorious $30 buy in $20K overlays. At which point I'll be making a thread displaying it to remind you.
Yeah, see, that's why you keep getting banned. You can't just make a point and move on.

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Originally Posted by DSL22
I can promise I'll stop posting in this thread, though.
I'm sure you can promise lots of things. But why bother promising things you can't deliver on?

For those who didn't see the posts before I deleted them and banned him, he'd already posted twice more in this thread after this "promise".

And now...back to the topic.
12-13-2017 , 08:14 PM
inb4 Super Saturday Progressive KO bounty tourneys :-)

Seriously though im excited to play this Saturday stuff, good stuff, and damn that other guy, WPN as a whole came a LONG way in the past 2 yrs more than ever. Improved drastically and getting better and better as time goes on
12-14-2017 , 03:46 PM
Whoever made the graphic in the OP did a good job!
12-16-2017 , 02:05 AM
Man that guy really brought the mood down.... merry xmas bobo fett, god bless you

Any US facing site that starts PKO bounty, with crypto, deposit/withdraw gets the majority of my play/BR !!!!
01-03-2018 , 03:49 PM
super happy that DSL guy is gone. think the network as well as the changes and improvements made throughout the last few years have been absolutely amazing.

however, have a question / argument i'm xposting from another thread because think it is quite relevant (is exactly about the saturday series specifically and somewhat broadly about the streak events, of which there seem to be an absurd amount scheduled, seemingly with conflicting interest) and i really would like some clarification about it before saturday.

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Originally Posted by ship
wait so now this new saturday 200k major is one of these gimmicky satellite things for the milly? so it's a $265 satellite to a $265 tournament, and the top 8 people play for the remaining 40% of the prize pool... ?

really think it would be a huge huge huge mistake / error to make these streak gimmicks a major commonplace offering. not a single one of the test runs even fired because of how unenticing an idea it is / unenticing it would be to play. much less grind regularly. nobody on earth is interested in playing a regular structured tournament for 9 hours to get 9th and get a buy in back profiting 00z just the same as the guy who finished 5.2 hours earlier in 311th place. that's actually a huge loss due to wasted time and hourly. can't possibly envision a reason to play these things unless it's the only network a player has available. might be a "what else are you gonna do?" registration from US players who aren't mixing in ignition volume or some other niche market. think these things die out within the first week if they even get off the ground at all. can easily see them not hitting required number of entrants.

also can envision a bunch of people playing the first saturday without realizing it's payout structure is an absolute joke, and then refrain from playing them ever again and only waiting for the milly on sunday.

had 4 people set to come over for the weekend to grind round the clock saturday and sunday. convinced them not to play a local live event 250 200k because day 2 is saturday and 'because there's a 265 200k on wpn that day'


but in reality, there isn't a 265 200k. it's a 265$ sattellite to a $265 tournament, but if you ifnish in the top 8 you can play for the remaining 20% of the prizepool amongst the other players.


think this idea is the biggest faceplant decision from the network in as long as i can remember.



please don't do this
01-05-2018 , 03:00 AM
Excited about this schedule! But not seeing it in the lobby, does this still start saturday?
01-05-2018 , 11:10 AM
Yes sir.. they will be there
01-05-2018 , 12:17 PM
What is the plan after these flop tomorrow? Will you be considering adding real tournaments? Fwiw, I actually like the idea, but the fact that you hyped up a new Saturday schedule that is basically all satellites will lead me not to play a single one. Can you confirm that all of the MTTs with "The Streak" out front are this format?

How about instead of a dumb new satellite structure you keep 1 or 2, and turn the rest into Phase tournaments like Stars runs. Run daily Day 1's with day 2 being on Saturday. Not only can you boast "huge" prize pools, but you could also run more real tournaments and funnel players to your gimmick satellite at the same time, just a thought.

I really hope something is done, as I and many other were very excited upon seeing huge guarantees on Saturday. Quite a let down to find out they aren't that at all.
01-05-2018 , 01:54 PM
Im confused as to what you mean all satellites?

What makes you think that

      
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