I don't even really notice that...


im to busy sucking out on beerbottlez

LOL you probably are and I'm not even sure I know your screen name either but would recognize it of course.

Been out of town for a week but very excited to see that traffic seems to be picking up across the board. How have the games been running at $20+?

I highly doubt this guy could beat $20 games without running insanely hot, colluding or not. He is horrendous. I have played thousands of hands with him(and every other reg at most stakes) and I have notes on him like 'loves to put lots of $ in when he is behind 100% of people's ranges'.

I don't understand why a lot of people think that because a very small % of people might do something bad (and cheat) that we should take DON games away from everyone.

A lot of recreational players like to play DON's b/c they are quick fix - like putting $25 or $50 on black on a roulette wheel and trying to double your $ real quick. It sounds like the people who keep speaking out against DON's are doing it b/c getting rid of them would funnel more fish into their specialty games of choice.

Well the truth is no one knows how large or small a % of this is going on because WPN "security" doesn't do much about it. I'd suspect that this goes on a lot more than people think.

iboobooi aka peewee aka ihasthebluff, a known colluder in the past is always bragging about his 8% don roi and how he is a reg in the 20s - 100s, dont make sense to me how a scumbag cheater(needed to cheat lulz at u iboobooi, u clown) is suddenly beating dons at 8%. why did he have to cheat in the past if he is that good lulz(u ****ing clown).

anyway he continues to brag around here under the ihasthebluff alias about his don superiority in these games. wpn hasnt done anything about it but im skeptical, perhaps he is not cheating anymore, but ya, it pry goes on

you just mad i make more $$ than you.

It's certainly a lot less than most people seem to think it is.

I have played thousands of DON's on ACR in 2014, and the number of times I thought I saw collusion is somewhere around 5-6 times, out of thousands of games.

That is just my own personal experience but I really haven't seen much collusion and I bet that I have actually faced more collusion in other game formats and just wasn't able to tell b/c it's harder to notice. And the players in this thread that were labeled as colluders like cyal8loser and acaibowl and golden eagles or whoever are so bad, that I find it hard to believe that it is actually costing anyone any money -my results vs those 'colluders' are much better than vs the other grinders like beerdonkey and countryho

ive played with melvin on itops, merge, and wpn. don't think i ever saw a single shady thing from him

his trolling seems to have great effect on you xD you might want to cool yer jets before you have a heart attack

Hey if anyone has a Skype group I would def be interested in joining. Send me a PM.

i aint even mad

If ibooboo were colluding I would know as I have played thousands of games with him on wpn. Your continuous posting of this is getting redicoulous!

-CountryHo

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Hey Tommy, bit of a slow week, as a lot of regs have taken the week off, but definitely expect it to pick up next week abd even more for the new year. Best thing to do is open sit sngs. Never has not worked for me; unless it's like 2am.

-CountryHo

Hahaha had a bit of a weird night...will definitely be back for the new year to grind with you guys...add me on Skype if you want. pm me.

For people saying there is no collusion how would you explain this? 85% of the games played on these 3 accounts have been with AcnupuH4uK and about 95% of them are DON's. But hey im sure nothing is going on and the sick minds at WPN security are doing a great job policing these games....



Im sure he has many more accounts but these ones are pretty obvious. Also I should add how fast $50 and $80 DON's fill up out of nowhere with random accounts while $20 and $30 DON's take awhile which makes it much more suspect.

i played in alot of 50s with those guys and it was an interesting dynamic to say the least.

trust me, im a don legend i know what im talking about lol

So if that is totals. The first guy ROI is worse vs. AcnupuH4uK but both are low in games without him.

The second guy is better slightly but still putting up winning numbers close enough in games without him.

The third guy is slightly better but is still putting up amazing in a small sample numbers without him.

Not enough data to go off that alone but I haven't played many games with a few of them guys at once to come to my own thoughts.

As someone who starts up games the $20s fill up fast enough a lot of times for me and the $30s do too more so during peak hours. Many people don't try to start up the games and just always wait to sit when they are filling up so if a majority of the player pool goes off this trend then the games aren't going to take off as much as they could.

WPN should offer the guy who sits first an extra 10% or 20% of bonus points on top of what they get for a particular game if they are the one that sits first.

Not sure if serious.

Serious 100% if comparing ROI data but as far as them playing so many games together then that part is definitely suspect but you have to provide either hand samples or details of what they do in the games together that appears to be collusion imo.

comparing roi data is pretty irrelevant since each guy has played a total of like 20 games without acnup as opposed to 200-400 with him...

and it would almost be impossible to post hands showing collusion, since the collusion would just be giving each other walks, folding to each others shoves, or r/f to each other etc aka no showdowns

^^^ - Well that is what I'm asking. So you are saying that you feel they are softplaying one another when necessary to keep stacks out of danger and they aren't ever calling shoves from one another?

Otherwise just to say they play a bunch of games together at stakes where the player pool isn't as large as the $30's and under meaning that is likely more to happen just isn't enough proof on its own.

What we can agree on is WPN security is LOL and they don't seem to care to investigate. Sorry WPN Reps but we constantly discuss this and usually you all ignore everyone when we do.

I don't feel DONs are filled with as many colluders as people claim. The problem is more on WPN security and their lack of wanting to look into the repeat offenders whose screen names keep popping up here whether it's in DONs or Russian bots playing the hyper turbo heads up sngs.

Matt just give up you could have all 3 guys on video confessing and you couldn't convince these guys collusion actually happens. Beer is as sympathetic to this as anyone...just wait for Santa Cruz to throw in his 2 cents. Many colluders have been playing for months (if not longer)...just avoid games with those players that's our only recourse.

This^

Stop reggin cons

Then even more 9mans will fire

Then let the con colluders come join.. And get crushed

Gl

dons are the purest form of poker