First, I understand that most people don't want to play very long tournaments, or they can't. If you work eight hours and drive 10 or more miles each way, come home, then take your kids to soccer practice or a band concert, you're probably not interested in playing poker for eight hours when you get home. I get that.

I'm 62 and I guess you could say I'm semi-retired. I don't have a "regular job" but I put in 30-40 hours a week playing or studying poker. My wife works for one of the larger health care companies and we both have home offices. The closest local room if I want to play live is only seven miles away.

I can set my own schedule and the online tournaments that I play the most start at 1830, 2214 and 2314 every night on Juicy Stakes. I'm playing mostly on Juicy Stakes right now because I'm building a bankroll there. I want to have live options and have a bankroll on at least two online sites, so that I can play wherever and whenever and wherever I want.

I've always been a night person and I've had a lot of second and third shift jobs. My usual poker work hours are something like 1800 to 0300 or 0400, six or seven days a week.

I used to dislike the rebuy and add-on tournaments, but I'm getting pretty good at them. After I've played the same online tournament a few times I get a feel for it: how many times I can rebuy before I'm not making money, and how to approach the add-on (it's a kind of bubble, with some players hanging on, mostly folding until they get to the add-on, while others take advantage of the tight players.)

I live in the United States. I can not play on PokerStars. I play on Americas Cardroom and Juicy Stakes Poker. Both take US players and both work with Holdem Manager and Poker Tracker.

I play the long deepstacked tournaments online partly because I like them, and partly because there are a lot of players that aren't good at them. They get tired and sit out for a while, or join late with an M of 5 or 6. And of course, if they are drinking while they play they aren't very good after six hours and at least that many beers.

Some of the live tournaments that I play are fairly long as well, running from about 1900 to a little after midnight. Deepstack NLHE tournaments are my specialty, just as some players specialize in high rollers or turbos or mixed games.

The late reg would be less obnoxious if they paid less spots, but WPN seems content with a min cash that is less than your buy in or almost exactly your buy in.

I like the late rego.

It’s one of the reasons I play on WPN.

I really don’t get it to be honest.

Late Reg = Bigger prizepool, deeper stacks

If you only have limited time then buy in when the stack depth is 100BB deep. It’s what you get in most other sites anyway.

I also like it because some tourneys start too early for me to play because it’s 3am. If it was 30 min late rego I would play somewhere else.

The problem is not late regnin general it is 5hrs late reg. This does not necessarily mean deeper stacks. In reality this actually means shallower stacks later on in the tournaments because not enough people have busted yet.

I saw the need for the 5hr late reg a year ago and prior but now the site can reach the guarantees in a shorter period and they really should test out shortening late reg times. Bringing the 5hr down to 3-4 and the 3hr down to 1.5-2.

I think when most people look at this they compare the blind level at the 5hr mark to the blind level at the 3hr mark and see that it won’t work. But that’s not how it should be done. When shortening the late reg period you need to remove the insignificant blind jumps earlier in the tournament. What this will do is cause more players to bust out quicker. Leading to re entries quicker and leading to deeper stacks and close if not exactly the same prize pool.

Because honestly when B.B. goes from 200-250-300-350-400-450-500. You could easily remove every other level there and create a better tournament overall

Let me give one scenario before you complain about 5 HR LR

Sunday Warm Up

Average gets to 160 - 180K

Take away 2 hours of late reg and then you lose out of roughly 60k PP.

One game that suffers in structure with 3 hour late registration is the Sunday stud game. The last levels are virtually pot committing you if you bet one time, so that will get very little late entry for last two levels. Maybe go 20 minute levels to slow the clock down. It is a fast game ince those blinds get up there anyway.

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What is the average level most players register, can you determine that? I'd think there is a difference between rebuys and brand new entries. Lots of people just late reg really late because it's an option, they'd register earlier if the option wasn't there.

If more late entries are coming from rebuys then maybe that promotes keeping it where it is a little more. Idk the right answer, but trying to come down a bit could eventually be worth a look.

I have thought about moving these down to 4 hours for now and then see but as much as some people complain.
Why fix whats not broken?

Do you really lose this though, if you remove levels as I suggest. Don't just stop late reg earlier when say BB is 600 or something. Remove some of the meaningless levels through the late reg period in order to cause more action early on. Doing this means more people bust quicker, which means those people that re enter will re enter quicker and keep the prize pool up.

This makes deeper stacks deeper in the tournament as well as deeper stacks at the end of late reg. That 1k BB level ends up being a headache because there is lots of shove/fold going on which changes the dynamic of the tournament for about 25-30 mins every tournament. If players are deeper during this time losing that 10bb to the last minute entrant won't be as bad of a hit to your stack.

All in all I don't think I am complaining. I am giving constructive criticism to what lots of players on the network see as an annoyance.

I didnt say you were complaining lol.. I think your feedback is great tbh.

The truth is i would be scared to change these, not for overlay reasons because that just wouldnt happen. They get so big and so many players that why as i said. Fix something that isnt broken

I apologize then. I do think you do great work in getting good schedules out and growing the network. However, I do see that the biggest complaints for WPN are the 5hr late reg. So one could argue that it is broken. I do think that it may be fine for the Sunday events or maybe those could change too.

If you did want to test what 3-4hr late reg would do I would suggest testing it on to 66$ 30k that runs Tuesday and Thursday. Move the start time back an hour so those last minute players who are just getting home from work don’t miss it and cut out some of those early levels and I think you will ha e a really good test run

When i say something is not broken. Still get for obvious reasons the most players in these tournaments.
When you say the biggest complaints, the biggest complaints by who?

Also if you love the schedule now. Wait for 2018.. we going big or we going home....

Teaser alert (idk how to do the spoiler) Saturdays have gone from 200k to over 700k

Im going home ;-(

Wow, that's a big jump for the worst day if the week. Nice!

Any chance of more stud or a FLHE game or two? Even if they are ODs, MTT format would be great.

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I really hope this means you're improving M-F and Sunday then as well. Do you plan to roll everything out at the start of 2018 or will you start to ease into it as 2017 closes out? We want more details!

Start of 2018 and yeh i will be revamping everyday

lol Saturday probably will get revamped big time.. saw around $100k overlay but dont know if it was just the series...

Wow wow wow.. Today s schedule is amazing. Is it gonna be a daily 109 50k and 28 40k ?

Great job !

No it was going to be... Coming up to xmas and new year i will be changing it back.. That decision literally just got made.

I promise everyday in 2018 will be worth playing. Gona be sickkk!

****. I just spent 15 min writing this sappy thank you / request post and my phone crashes / deletes it. Mega tilt.

Super stoked about this. Seemed like they had no trouble breaking guarantees during the series so was hoping you made them the standard and/or added a few new ones.

Also, could you guys plzzzz do another series in panama ? Could just make it a ~1100 500k instead of a milly , have a few hr options like a 3k and 10k no guarantee / maybe cancel if no interest or bump it if interest etc. couple smaller prelims / postlims like a 340 warm up and 550 second chance or something.
Really truly loved and enjoyed the freedom to explore the huge and amazing Panama City with remarkable ease, the much cheaper and more liberal travel options for neighboring countries (we were gonna skip our flight and take the bus back to CR with everyone last time, but my dad got sick and I had to leave) would both help traffic and enable more of the CR staff to make it down cheaply.


Not sure if it would help or hurt to run it a few weeks before the yearly stars event in town, can see arguments for both helping and hurting and nowhere near the experience to know.


Anyways, that’s all I can remember wanting to write other than saying thanks for trying so hard to actively be involved in the community. It doesn’t go unnoticed.


And yeah, keep up the amazing work. If you build it, they will come. Lfg ����

This please.

Man...I live in the midwest and I'm home and ready to play around 7pm CST but I pretty much miss the $66 30k, $30 20k, and the $109 30k and your definitely not getting much traffic from the west coast time zones.

If you guys could push those back even a little bit I think you would get some nice fields every night.

Please do not change the late reg structure, it is one of the best parts about ACR. IMO it caters to the regs who make up for a large portion of the prizepool due to firing off. Even though some people find it annoying theres a large group who actually like the long registration periods, myself included.

+1

Almost to 2018, any preview of the new schedule? At least another day or two like the Saturday one that has been released? I like to sit down at the end of the year and plan where I will be spending my tournament playing time for the next year and create a schedule from different sites, so it'd be nice to get some info, thanks.

not right now but i can tell you that Sundays have gone from 675k GTD to over 2 million