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08-10-2015 , 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by numberonedonk
Need more $10-$30 Mtt's with decent GTD's.
Agreed.. the $30 10k is good, but that's all there is in this range.
08-12-2015 , 06:34 PM
AGAINNNNNN WNG !!!
08-14-2015 , 07:17 PM
hopefully they fix their structures soon so it doesn't take 8 hours to play a 300 person tourney
08-14-2015 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
hopefully they fix their structures soon so it doesn't take 8 hours to play a 300 person tourney
i'd much rather see a playable schedule than a worse structure.
08-14-2015 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
Is there going to be a schedule overall before October? I'm assuming the point of running 4 millions is to attract new players and the current schedule isn't going to do that.

It's not like all the accounts that play Sunday only wouldn't play throughout the week, the schedule just sucks. (Not to say it's not way better than it was)
myself and a few other regs have made a schedule up for him, a combination of what is already there and a few other tourneys added. I have sent it to them, whether they do anything with it or not, is on them!
08-14-2015 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by WONecks
myself and a few other regs have made a schedule up for him, a combination of what is already there and a few other tourneys added. I have sent it to them, whether they do anything with it or not, is on them!
Maybe they should hire a reg that plays MTTs to be the tournament director.
08-14-2015 , 09:06 PM
GOT TO GIVE THE PEEEEOPLE, WHAT THEY WANT
08-15-2015 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
Maybe they should hire a reg that plays MTTs to be the tournament director.
Yeah, because catering to regs only (because they will only do things to benefit themselves) will help to increase the overall traffic and keep the poker ecology of the network healthy.
08-15-2015 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
Maybe they should hire a reg that plays MTTs to be the tournament director.
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Originally Posted by WONecks
myself and a few other regs have made a schedule up for him, a combination of what is already there and a few other tourneys added. I have sent it to them, whether they do anything with it or not, is on them!
I believe that TD is doing what he can -all things considered- but there is one issue that can be easily fixed:
If WPN wants to attract non-US players and/or different time zones, TD have to schedule more mid/high MTT's between 4 and 7pm.
I agree with WOWnecks:
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i'd much rather see a playable schedule than a worse structure.
08-15-2015 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 39suited
Yeah, because catering to regs only (because they will only do things to benefit themselves) will help to increase the overall traffic and keep the poker ecology of the network healthy.
Having someone who is a MTT reg doesn't mean they would cater to regs, it means they would know what they're doing when it comes to tournaments. The schedule is awful and the structures are meh.

Many people have tried helping, myself included, and more often than not the ideas are brushed off. He clearly doesn't understand how to set up a playable schedule and has had years to prove other wise.

Why would you have someone that barely plays MTTs in charge of them? He didn't even know how a chop worked ffs.

Oh, and if you haven't noticed, the schedule already caters to regs. Who do you think benefits from 3 hour late reg w/ unlimited reentries and deep structures? (Which are 90% of the tournaments)

I'd also suspect that w/e MTT reg took over wouldn't be playing on the site, hence not doing things to benefit them.
08-15-2015 , 12:49 PM
I hope that isn't taken as firing shots. Being a good guy doesn't = having knowledge of tournament poker.
08-15-2015 , 12:55 PM
just take the nightly 100 or whatever and make the blinds 12 minutes and you have a great tourney that doesn't end at 4am
08-15-2015 , 02:29 PM
When i start my session, I do it with the expectation that im going to be up until 4 or 5 am.

Here is the tentative schedule that i sent to WTD. Like i said, Whatever he does with it is on him. All i can do is try to help.

12:00 $11 $1,000
1:00 $6 R/A $1,000
2:00 $2.20 $1,000 (change this from $2,000 on wednesday and friday to $1,000 everyday but sunday)
3:00 $5.50 $1,250
3:30 $6 R/A $1,500
4:00 $11 $1,500
4:15 $3.30 $500
4:30 $16.50 $2,000 (8 max, 10,000 starting chips)
5:00 $22 6max $2,000 (can make $1,000) but some small stakes 6max is needed
5:00 Change $11 4max to 6max or 8max (both 6max and 8max are popular among players, and 4max rarely runs)
5:30 $11 turbo $1,000
6:00 $3 R/A $1,000
6:00 $30 $10,000
6:30 $11-$16.50 turbo $1,000
7:00 $109 $15,000 (flagship tourney $25,000 on wednesday and Sunday is working well)
7:00 $6 R/A $2,000 ($2,500 on Saturdays)
7:15 $44 8 max $4,000
7:30 $11 $1,500 (progressive GTD, each day that it hits, increase it by $50 the next day)
7:45 $7.70 turbo $750
8:00 $33 $3,000 (progressive GTD, each day that it hits the gtd, increase it by $100 the next day)
8:20 $160 $10,000 (will cover easily)
8:30 $3.30 $750
8:30 $22 turbo $1,200
9:00 $11 6 max KO $1,500 (site makes double the rake over the $7 version. $7 PP, $3 KO, $1 rake)
9:00 $16.50 6max PLO $1,000 (changed from $27.50)
9:00 $6 R/A $1,750
9:15 $22 $2,000 (remove 4max, non turbo)
9:30 $33 $2,000 turbo
9:30 $11 1r/1A $1,500 (large addon)
9:45 $109 $5,000 (make this a turbo)
9:45 $3.30 $300 turbo
10:00 $11 $1,500
10:30 $11 $1,500 megastack turbo
11:00 $5.50 $1,000
11:00 $6 R/A $1,000
11:00 $11 $1,000 turbo
11:30 $5.50 $500 turbo
12:00 $7.70 $700 turbo
12:00 $22 $1,000 megastack turbo (flagship late night tourney "Midnight Madness")
08-15-2015 , 03:07 PM
+1 WONecks schedule
08-15-2015 , 03:18 PM
to be honest. I didn't focus on anything HS. Because i feel that the higher stakes schedule is already pretty good.

my main hitting point was just more volume of tournaments and using the daily schedule for saturdays as well.
08-15-2015 , 06:49 PM
Love the proposed schedule by Necks, much more playable.

I should also add, there is a $33 $600 GTD GI60M turbo that starts at 10pm ET daily, and I don't think I have ever seen it run. That is a tourney that could easily be changed into a $5.50-$22 buyin turbo with a small GTD.
08-15-2015 , 09:16 PM
excuse my language. but F*ck the GI60 tournaments. most of them don't run. The same people bitching about wanting 1hr LR tourneys are the same people not playing them. Also, those people are going to find something to bitch about regardless.
08-15-2015 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
Maybe they should hire a reg that plays MTTs to be the tournament director.

I have tried to talk to Phil but he doesn't seem to feel the same way we all do!


I dont get why bovada can pull of a couple 10ks and 8ks for 11 and 22 $$$ why cant winning pull off a nightly $11 5k or something !

Last edited by goldy866; 08-15-2015 at 09:30 PM.
08-15-2015 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by goldy866
I have tried to talk to Phil but he doesn't seem to feel the same way we all do!


I dont get why bovada can pull of a couple 10ks and 8ks for 11 and 22 $$$ why cant winning pull off a nightly $11 5k or something !
at this point, i'd be happy with an $11 5k on sundays (replacing the $11 2.5k)
08-16-2015 , 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by WONecks
When i start my session, I do it with the expectation that im going to be up until 4 or 5 am.
I play mostly live now, but live or online, I do exactly the same thing. Everyone has certain things they are looking for when they pick a tournament, but one of the most important questions I ask is this: "Am I too tired to play this tournament?" If there is a good chance I'll waste a buy-in, I won't play

I know that if I play a Big Ten Tournament I'm going to be playing many hours, and I plan for that. If I play a tournament in my local charity room and it starts at 6 P.M., I know that the winner will probably still be playing at midnight--so the day before the tournament I stay up well after midnight, hoping to sleep more that eight hours before i get up in the afternoon of tournament day.
08-16-2015 , 09:27 AM
Seems like the schedule is slowly coming along, would like to see them experiment with the progressive gtd mtts more.

I remember awhile back they said blah blah blah we cant run a 100k every week its just not possible. Then they tried it out by having the sunday special and that turned out to be great. I think this could happen with a few more tourneys as well. Either way like the way the site is going and hopefully they keep making positive changes.
08-16-2015 , 10:58 AM
I agree it's way better than it was, but still needs drastically improved during the week. The way it is you can't only play WPN. Sundays are pretty good now. It was crazy how long it took for them to listen to us about putting the flagship sunday $215 at 3 or 4 PM EST, now look at it.
08-16-2015 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mcc3504
Seems like the schedule is slowly coming along, would like to see them experiment with the progressive gtd mtts more.

I remember awhile back they said blah blah blah we cant run a 100k every week its just not possible. Then they tried it out by having the sunday special and that turned out to be great. I think this could happen with a few more tourneys as well. Either way like the way the site is going and hopefully they keep making positive changes.
Sadly, they're not going to do this. Phil apparently doesnt like the progressive GTDs.
08-16-2015 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by WONecks
Sadly, they're not going to do this. Phil apparently doesnt like the progressive GTDs.
Definitely makes sense.

He's all about the Cage which no one gives a **** about though lol.

The progressive guarantee worked great for the $215, they just decided to start it going into the down time instead of peak times.
08-16-2015 , 12:54 PM
^Kind of. It is attracting 100k+ each time but I think (could be mistaken) it overlays pretty much every time.

I do think a Progressive model would be good for some smaller stakes stuff, even if it overlays from time to time the site eats a much smaller amount than w/ the 215 progresssive.

I also agree the schedule is less than stellar, but that's partly because payout structures on 20-40 dollar tournaments... just don't interest me. I'll admit my volume ramped down mainly due to school, and I'll play a bit more now, but TBH given all the other options available to me now, I can't see why I should play mid-low range games, at least often enough for WPN to care.

I'm just saying that even though I had classes, WPN is the only site I didn't really play on... almost at all. It's not that I don't like WPN, in fact for many reasons they are my favorite site to play on, but I sort of feel that progress has slowed significantly. Yeah the Millions is great in that it happens and it's cool and probably brings some new players, but let's be real most people are not bankrolled to play it. Let's get something done to keep new midstakes players playing...

      
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