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06-12-2015 , 09:52 AM
it seems pointless to make suggetions , I dont see any changes.
06-12-2015 , 12:27 PM
^ You know that's not really true, we just want faster changes some things.
06-13-2015 , 02:51 PM
See the "I Love A.C.R. but...." thread. TD was responding in there, but doesn't really care. He said they doubled in growth so what they are doing is working, says all the rec players like it that way, etc....but yet never said he actually polled anyone, says it helps meet the guarantees and they are still paying overlays every month, etc. It's really pointless.
06-16-2015 , 11:42 PM
Is there any way to implement a rule in MTT's to punish/banish serial stallers?
06-17-2015 , 12:31 AM
As a more serious suggestion, I'll pile on another vote for more of their good guaranteed tournaments starting earlier. It's pretty ludicrous for a (mostly) US-facing site to have their best tournaments go till 5am eastern
06-17-2015 , 01:54 AM
If WPN reps read this thread I would suggest moving the daily $15 plo8 mtt to a later starting time. 4:00pm EST is a hard sell for a lot of players and if this particular MTT started either a little before or a little after the $7 daily I think it would get enough players to run more often
06-17-2015 , 03:32 PM
I would love to see WPN add a mtt like the $75 +$7/Thousandaire Maker on bovada. Make it a turbo like on bovada... something like 3k starting stacks and 10 minute levels... guarantee 3x $1,000 prizes. I think that would be a hit. Turbo stacks/levels would make it so some "fun" players might win, and in turn might shot take with their new-found winnings
06-17-2015 , 10:45 PM
I had suggested that to WTD, and what he basically said was that he liked the idea, but he wasn't sure if it'd be popular enough that it'd be possible, especially nightly. He said something along the lines of if he knew that the FT would be paying out 1k to everyone he'd add it for sure, but he'll think about adding it on Sundays.

FWIW, I'd be fine playing it even if it only had a 2.5-4k prize pool, so I'm with you on that.

PS: On Bovada it's not a turbo, it has 12 minute blinds and a 2.5k start. IMO, it'd be a really fun addition to the schedule regardless of structure, it would just need to end by around 1AM.
06-18-2015 , 01:13 PM
Like the survivor idea as well, can def see them running a $75 guaranteeing $5k and paying out top 5 $1k each.

A nightly at 7pm and call it something like the $5k Nightly Survivor
06-20-2015 , 06:50 PM
I won an entry to the Sunday Special $115k this afternoon. I already have plans tomorrow that won't allow me to play poker (Father's Day). Has anyone been successful getting entry to a different iteration of a tourney after winning a satellite, or been refunded?

I talked to live chat, they couldn't do anything. I also PM'd winning_TD, and sent and email to support, but not sure if I'll receive a response in time.
06-21-2015 , 04:37 PM
Is anyone else having probs w/ pt4 on blackchip poker >?
06-25-2015 , 11:08 AM
A few thoughts Ive had

1) What the crap are these GI60M Mtts? there isnt one worth playing imo!!

2) Every site out there has a decent $11 mtt with a big GTD except wpn. Maybe you guys could dump the $11 $750 4 max at 5:00pm and put say $11 $1.5k and let it grow into a monster? <<--progressive GTD

3) There are some mtts that I dont see run
a) $50 Mega Bounty - 6 max 12:00pm -- Get rid of it or make it an $11 $750
b) $11 $750 4 max 5:00pm -- Make an $11 $1.5k with a progressive GTD
c) $50 Mega bounty NLO8 6 max 5:45 -- $11 Mega bounty $1k
d) $22 $1.5k 4 max 9:15 -- Make this a 6 max PLZ

4) To help your mtts grow there should be on demand sattys that start when you have 36 ppl ready to play. 1 hour late reg.
$1.10 to a $11 would be 3 seats min
$2.20 to the $22 $25k on sunday (1st seat won is a must play)
$3.30 to the $33 $12.5k on sunday ( 1st seat won is a must play)
$5.50 to the $55 $5k on sunday (1st seat won is a must play)
$11 to the $109 $25k on sunday (1st seat won is a must play)
$22 to the $215 $115k on sunday ( 1st seat won is a must play)
06-25-2015 , 11:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CommasAfterCommas
A few thoughts Ive had

1) What the crap are these GI60M Mtts? there isnt one worth playing imo!!
forumserver.twoplustwo.com/218/winning-poker-network/60-min-lr-mtt-s-1539783/
06-25-2015 , 07:15 PM
Gi60m is 60 min late regs for people that hate the super long 3 hour late regs. The gtd will grow with time if we play and support them.
06-26-2015 , 04:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CommasAfterCommas

2) Every site out there has a decent $11 mtt with a big GTD except wpn. Maybe you guys could dump the $11 $750 4 max at 5:00pm and put say $11 $1.5k and let it grow into a monster? <<--progressive GTD

3) There are some mtts that I dont see run
a) $50 Mega Bounty - 6 max 12:00pm -- Get rid of it or make it an $11 $750
b) $11 $750 4 max 5:00pm -- Make an $11 $1.5k with a progressive GTD
c) $50 Mega bounty NLO8 6 max 5:45 -- $11 Mega bounty $1k
d) $22 $1.5k 4 max 9:15 -- Make this a 6 max PLZ

4) To help your mtts grow there should be on demand sattys that start when you have 36 ppl ready to play. 1 hour late reg.
$1.10 to a $11 would be 3 seats min
$2.20 to the $22 $25k on sunday (1st seat won is a must play)
$3.30 to the $33 $12.5k on sunday ( 1st seat won is a must play)
$5.50 to the $55 $5k on sunday (1st seat won is a must play)
$11 to the $109 $25k on sunday (1st seat won is a must play)
$22 to the $215 $115k on sunday ( 1st seat won is a must play)
+1
06-27-2015 , 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CommasAfterCommas
A few thoughts Ive had

1) What the crap are these GI60M Mtts? there isnt one worth playing imo!!

2) Every site out there has a decent $11 mtt with a big GTD except wpn. Maybe you guys could dump the $11 $750 4 max at 5:00pm and put say $11 $1.5k and let it grow into a monster? <<--progressive GTD

3) There are some mtts that I dont see run
a) $50 Mega Bounty - 6 max 12:00pm -- Get rid of it or make it an $11 $750
b) $11 $750 4 max 5:00pm -- Make an $11 $1.5k with a progressive GTD
c) $50 Mega bounty NLO8 6 max 5:45 -- $11 Mega bounty $1k
d) $22 $1.5k 4 max 9:15 -- Make this a 6 max PLZ

4) To help your mtts grow there should be on demand sattys that start when you have 36 ppl ready to play. 1 hour late reg.
$1.10 to a $11 would be 3 seats min
$2.20 to the $22 $25k on sunday (1st seat won is a must play)
$3.30 to the $33 $12.5k on sunday ( 1st seat won is a must play)
$5.50 to the $55 $5k on sunday (1st seat won is a must play)
$11 to the $109 $25k on sunday (1st seat won is a must play)
$22 to the $215 $115k on sunday ( 1st seat won is a must play)
I'm not sure about this, but my concern is more general than specific.

Let me say first that in general I tend to disagree with the people in this thread that want something different, mainly wanting tournaments to end more quickly or run at more convenient times. I'm a full-time player, or at least I'm trying to be while I'm a caretaker for an elderly relative. When I look for a tournament I want it to be deep, and I want it to be late, because both of those give me an edge plus I'm a natural night person. When I can play, I clear the time on my schedule and sleep in on the day of an evening deepstack tournamment.

My concern with your post isn't as specific, it's more general, and it's not even really about what you said. I think that too many people are asking for way too many more and different tournaments, which will split the playing pool into too many pieces.

When I could play on PokerStars they had every kind of SNG that you can imagine. From 9 players to 2-, 3-, 4- and 5-tables, and also with 90 and 180-players. They even had a $0.10 360-player SNG. Of course duringthis time DONs, turbos, hyperturbos and other formats were added to the point that players who just wanted to play standard 1-table SNGs were having trouble multitabling. The SNG player pool was carved into too many pieces.

With WPN we are dealing with a much smaller player pool. None of us can everything we want. Choices have to be made, and putting the same number of people in fewer MTTs = bigger prize pools.
06-27-2015 , 03:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poker Clif
I'm not sure about this, but my concern is more general than specific.

Let me say first that in general I tend to disagree with the people in this thread that want something different, mainly wanting tournaments to end more quickly or run at more convenient times. I'm a full-time player, or at least I'm trying to be while I'm a caretaker for an elderly relative. When I look for a tournament I want it to be deep, and I want it to be late, because both of those give me an edge plus I'm a natural night person. When I can play, I clear the time on my schedule and sleep in on the day of an evening deepstack tournamment.

My concern with your post isn't as specific, it's more general, and it's not even really about what you said. I think that too many people are asking for way too many more and different tournaments, which will split the playing pool into too many pieces.

When I could play on PokerStars they had every kind of SNG that you can imagine. From 9 players to 2-, 3-, 4- and 5-tables, and also with 90 and 180-players. They even had a $0.10 360-player SNG. Of course duringthis time DONs, turbos, hyperturbos and other formats were added to the point that players who just wanted to play standard 1-table SNGs were having trouble multitabling. The SNG player pool was carved into too many pieces.

With WPN we are dealing with a much smaller player pool. None of us can everything we want. Choices have to be made, and putting the same number of people in fewer MTTs = bigger prize pools.
Like you said, choices do have to be made. Sadly though, you don't make up the majority of the players (late nighters, want to play deep, etc). Most are rec players and grinders playing much higher buy ins. I like deep as well for the edge...but the 3hr late reg and reentry is stupid for poker. The site needs to meet gtds, so that's why they want the longer late reg. But that's not what everyone wants/needs. Also, less mtts may mean bigger pools for those specifics, but what kind of grinder wants to 1 table a $5 for $100 more to first? I'd rather be able to load up 5 shots and take the less to first place and curb variance. I won't get anywhere/be a winner grinding 1 tourney a night.

Also, lol to the guy saying 36 man satties. Not because the idea is stupid, just that this site will ltierally never get 36 ppl to join a satty. They don't even get 36 ppl in a regular $5 on demand mtt. Site is dead.
06-27-2015 , 08:10 PM
playing on PokerKing atm, where are the tournament tickets located in the client?
06-28-2015 , 11:14 AM
WPN please add an early 109 on Sundays - I noticed Carbon has a 5k 109 at 12 EST on Sundays - Im sure you guys could match this.
06-28-2015 , 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bef99hwk
Like you said, choices do have to be made. Sadly though, you don't make up the majority of the players (late nighters, want to play deep, etc). Most are rec players and grinders playing much higher buy ins. I like deep as well for the edge...but the 3hr late reg and reentry is stupid for poker. The site needs to meet gtds, so that's why they want the longer late reg. But that's not what everyone wants/needs. Also, less mtts may mean bigger pools for those specifics, but what kind of grinder wants to 1 table a $5 for $100 more to first? I'd rather be able to load up 5 shots and take the less to first place and curb variance. I won't get anywhere/be a winner grinding 1 tourney a night.

Also, lol to the guy saying 36 man satties. Not because the idea is stupid, just that this site will ltierally never get 36 ppl to join a satty. They don't even get 36 ppl in a regular $5 on demand mtt. Site is dead.
Thank for you that thoughtful response. It helps no one when all we get on here and say, "I want what I want and the rest of you shut up!" People on here sometimes get pretty angry at me when all I'm doing is expressing my preference. But that's OK--one of the strongest parts of my game is that I never tilt.

I know that WPN has to cater to the rec players, because there are more of them. One could argue that pros make up for some of that by playing 10 tournaments at a time, but that's probably not possible on this site.

When I say that I want tournaments to be deep, I'm not saying that they all have to be that way. Obviously recs and pros want different things. I'm not saying that all tournaments should be what I want. I don't know what the ratios should be, maybe 2/3 tournaments at a convenient time that don't take too long, and 1/3 tournaments for players who want to go deep and play for big prize pools. People who run poker sites should have access to data that shows where that balance is.

To be honest, I don't play that much on here any more. I play in local charity rooms where a couple times a week I can play a tournament with 50,000 starting chips and up to 60 players. It runs from 1800 to around midnight. The first two blind levels are 100/100 and 100/200. That gives me a starting M of 250, or 500 big blinds. Even some of the less deep tournaments have the same blind levels with starting stacks of 25,000.

I mainly use WPN to play SNGs, and very occasionally to play a 2-3 hour tournament because that's all the time I have before I have to do something else.

Last edited by Poker Clif; 06-28-2015 at 03:40 PM. Reason: punctuation and spelling
06-28-2015 , 08:10 PM
Make the Beast tournament 10-12 minute levels, 15 is not needed for a satellite.
06-29-2015 , 01:29 PM
can we please get the ability to rebuy before the 1st hand in a tournament. thank you very much.
06-29-2015 , 11:01 PM
I posted this in the Mixed Games thread. But I want more people to see it and get more opinions on it.

I would like to see HORSE tourneys and I think a $5.50 buy in 200GTD would hit the GTD easily . And if that does well an $11 buy in maybe 400GTD and so on.
06-30-2015 , 03:12 AM
We really need a good tournament at the 4 pm weekday slot.
06-30-2015 , 06:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suspectdevice
We really need a good tournament at the 4 pm weekday slot.
+100

      
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