I do like the current structure of all them MTTs I only have issue with the 3 hour late reg. If the would bump it done to 2-2 hour 20 mins I think that would be perfect. I would prefer having a little less guaranteed money than a tournament with a ton of last minute registration in the last 30 mins and time banking the crap out of the game to get close to a cash.

+1000

Makes no sense to leave all the tournaments with 5k stacks and 15 min's levels, balance the schedulle with more turbo's (w/ some bigger gtd's) and maybe add some bigger HE rebuy's like 20 30R's, leaving all tournaments with this stacks means imo reg's will crush all recs in long run, and there's no incentive to play bigger buy in's with better structures.ffs just look at all the other poker rooms, that might be a good example.
It makes sense though to leave series with this structures, OSS...
Also a mid range HU weekly mtt would be sick, but I don't see that happening soon.

OOT
when are the next mtt series coming?

Yeah, I hear you on that. There are tounaments with GTD prize pools big enough to make me happy, but then they end up with like 900 for first and I just don't care to play for it. They really should be more top heavy than they are, there's no reason I should place in a 20+2 dollar tournament for 3 dollars in profit, and I don't know whose happy about that.

IMO, they should make the payouts more top heavy but I know they won't change that. I think that while WPN and WTD have the right idea about implementing changes to improve the network, they are ignoring some fundemental flaws in their business strategy. WPN is all about maximizing short term rake, and has no incentives geared towards recreational players. The only part of their business model meant to keep recreational players alive is that tournaments payout an average of 20% of players, rather than the standard 12%, and that just makes these MTTs boring.

I really think that if WPN doesn't change it's gears and cater towards recreational players more, it's economy is going to get sucked dry eventually. People here won't admit it, but cash games suck on WPN. And The Beast only incentives the volume grinders (and I think we can all agree that volume grinders are bad for the game, and the poker economy. If I need to post my logic for that, I will, but it seems obvious,) which just makes the games suck even more.

It's only beneficial to WPN for short term rake. Those people are net withdrawers, and WPN caters to them. It just seems like such a waste, they shouldn't be incentivizing anybody to play 12+ tables of .25//50 or higher when there are like 15-20 of those games running total.


WPN has so much potential, but it's like every time they run a promo, they're saying "Hey we made some great changes! Come into the fray, where each time you pay rake, a portion goes straight to MamaCoolJ and Gift of Gab! Don't you want a chance to give them some money?!?!? Isn't that an exciting promo!" It just goes to show how short sighted the management is here, that the first "exciting" change they advertised before getting rid of the extra JP rake, was the idea that getting rid of the BBJ, and adding that money to the Beast would be a good thing.

Literally the opposite of who they SHOULD cater to, they do. I Love WPN for their tournament structure and willingness to (incredibly slowly) change. But they have to stop BSing around. The only huge awesome change they made this year was getting rid of the extra Jackpot rake. Now they SHOULD completely change the Beast so that all the money doesn't just get sucked up into a few players, but they won't do it. Not to mention that people have been requesting that they get rid of the tournament ticket forever, but they don't seem to acknowledge it at all, despite the fact that taking thousands of dollars out of their site and handing it to a live casino can't possibly benefit the games. They just don't seem to care about keeping their poker economy alive.



I have the trust in WPN's financial integrity, but I'm realizing now why WPN is tougher than the other sites. Everything they do is to incentivize tough players and volume grinders to their site. It's a pretty ridiculous business model when you think about it long term, and it's the reason most of my play in Bovada, not here, even though I'd rather be playing on here if they made some changes. They have NO promos at all that incentivize losing players to come back. And why should they, when Bovada is right there and does everything it can to keep them?

^ Which is the reason that despite having a dedicated forum, the Bovada thread gets more traffic than this whole forum.

They have an outdated business model that made sense in 2007 for PokerStars when online poker was ridiculously huge and nobody really had to throw incentives to recreational players. They won't admit it, so they stick to their guns. They just keep making decisions to NOT grow as fast as they can.

any difference between true poker and wpn/bcp in terms of rakeback and player pools?

Both offer the same program for rakeback/elite benefits (just different names for points and such) and feed into the same WPN player pool.

is there a site to look up player stats for wpn?

Nope

P5's tracks cashes, but that's it.

I've played on WPN for a couple of years and today I got bored and actually played my first MTTs on the site. I was highly frustrated with the late registration lasting sooooo long. Are we seriously considering having 100 player events that hover at 20-30 remaining players from the time of start to the end of late registration.

Even with myself winning one of the 3 tournaments today I was slightly peeved by this. I would rather just play a 27man SNG that ends in an hour and a half than to be dragged on to play in a 5+ hour tourney with "30 or less" players.

PS: Partial frustration goes to the fact that I kept getting bounced from table to table because it was still during late registration with 17-20 players remaining. So a new table would be generated and then it would break and then regenerate a minute later...

Yeah, the majority here(and every other forum and about every other poker site) seem to agree it's terrible but WPN doesn't GAF. Maybe 2 years from now they'll change some things. Destin to be 3rd out of 3 ****ty options until regulation comes and puts all but Bodog out of business.

Even though their MTTs are laughably easy I don't even load up the site anymore besides once or twice a week for a few different MTTs. What's the point when Merge and Bovada are both crushing them with both schedule and guarantee's and their tournaments are actually fun to play?

It sucks, I really want to give this site my money. Merge is a bunch of scum and I hate playing Bovada. Sigh... end rant.

"Even though their MTTs are laughably easy"

Here I was, thinking I was just great at MTTs all of a sudden.

Stats, or you're a fraud.

Why are there no $109 satellites today?

+1 and the 33 1.2k just got terminated during the first level? wtf wpn

+1 to 6max turbo at 6:30

http://www.onlinepokerreport.com/124...aves-nj-de-nv/

^^^^ Have fun at Ultimate Poker.

I don't see why this would cause tournies to cancel after starting....

Pretty nice little slowroll there ESCORPION. Took 75 seconds to call my 3 bet with him holding AA in the $500 R/A just now. Def wasn't a connection issue...he hadn't had any probs all final table.

You stay classy, sir.

lol Umad. No double cheese for you today

^^ Not mad...just no reason for it, was all.

I remember the 1st time I got slow rolled.

You gotta be a little mad about it to post here lol. Just saying.

Dude is a total fish tho, can't see why letting him have one is bad. Yea it sucks to be slowrolled but the only counter I can think of is having enough tables up to not even notice lol.

Never understood why people get mad about getting slow rolled, especially by a fish. Make a note to always slow roll him and move on. It's not a big deal lol.

I've gotten slowrolled twice today already lol. Russcole and one of the Russian MA'ers. Not really fussed about it but def gonna slowroll the MA'er on both of his accounts I know of so far.

I had a chance to about 3-4 hands later...the ironic part of it was I was sitting there waiting, and thought to myself how sick it would be if he calls with AA. Fun times.