The 4k gt 6 max at 6 is my new favorite MTT. Great structure and a nice guarantee for a $20 entry. Is this be a daily tournament?

It has been daily for at least a month now.

Are there any satellites for the

OSS 30 SUNDAY 1k Cage
OSS 49 WEDS 5k Cage

?

I see satellites for the normal Weds 1k Cage but nothing for the OSS events. Are they really expecting to get a field with a 5k buy in?

Advance satellites (like starting a week prior to) would be advisable...

Randomly looking at my fav tournament tonight 100k warm up. Looks like G-Vine has a good chance of repeating or bettering his previous week. 2nd last week for $15k currently 1st for $28k with 3 to go. Good sweat for anyone looking.

Is there any hope that WPN will ever have 180 or 45 man turbo sngs? Recently started playing online again and that's what I use to play on Stars. Iv'e had some success with the micro mtts but the structure is brutal. Took 10 hours to get to the final table in the 1500 gtd last night.

on-demand mtts are pretty much the equivalent of a turbo 45-man, and if you play enough in a week the snc money pretty much covers your rake

I was going to actually sit down and fires some bullets in the OSS $22 PLO 6 max. Then I looked at the structure.

10,000 starting chips starting at 5/10 and 15 minute levels.

Guess I'll register on the last level as usual. Would be much better just to have 50/100 for 2 hours or something.

^ A weird, but not bad idea for some games. Problem is people don't like things they aren't used to. You could just reg an hour and a half in or something.

+1 A couple tournaments with 5-10k starting chips and 20 minute levels starting at 50/100 would do well I think.

FYP.

15 minutes with 3-5 hours of late reg is bad enough.

Why doesnt wpn basically copy pokerstars tournament structure? I mean to those of you who play those tournaments with a 5 hour late reg, do most of you actually play these at the start? I mean the first of many levels is basically going to be useless dont you all agree? Sure you might have some players going nuts but in general, isn't it true pretty much nothing happens? So when do you guys actually reg these tournaments? Like 1 hour in? I mean i dont know how anyone can play super deep for 15 minute levels at the start.


Why doesnt wpn basically try to imitate pokerstars tournametns? I mean wpn is allowed in row and most of the us. I mean, shouldn't that mean they could get a ton of players?

I almost always play the MTT's from the beginning. By the time half the field registers an hour in I've usually doubled up. By the time the whole field registers I've quintupled my stack if I don't get sucked out on. There's a huge advantage to registering at the start and getting 1-2 hours of play before the vast majority of the field registers. Besides giving me more opportunities to win chips, playing deeper for longer means I'm less likely to need a second bullet to try to win. I think the system is perfect as is for people like me who want that extra edge and also for the recs who want to throw dead money into the prize pool when they buy in for 10bb.

ETA: You'd be surprised how many donks make mistakes early in the tournament with deep stacks

Because WPN isn't Pokerstars and doesn't have the player base to run large GTD tourneys without 3-5 hour late reg and re-entry.

Very well summarized. I play a lot of speculative hands, and to do that you need big effective stacks. I will add that I think it's a big mistake to miss even one hand. You never know which hand will make or break your tournament.

I play every day and I often go an entire week without missing one tournament hand, live or online. Here's what can happen when you miss just one hand:

I recently decided to check out the freerolls to see how hard it might be to win the leaderboard and get a free entry to a $215 tournament. They are usually around 600-700 players and to get leaderboard points you have to finish in the top ten.

I was playing one a few days ago that started with just under 700 players. We got down to about 80 and I was 56th and very short on chips, looking for a good hand to shove.

We went on break, I had a bowel movement, and I got back just in time to see that my pocket queens got folded. That was the only hand that I missed the entire tournament. I was knocked out a few minutes later.

Some of us do everything that they can to never miss a hand (and yes, I use one):

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/32...hlight=pee+jar

There is no correlation between success and percentage of hands missed; I don't understand the point. Your queens could have easily been beat by a big stack calling with 8/3 off.

I've won satty seats to big games with 5 hour late registration and sat out the first hour or so with very little loss of chips. I usually skip the first hour of registration for any game that has satellites running prior. Many of those players are very loose and call big 3-bet raises with ace/rags. I'd just as soon skip the high variance first hour. The games without cheap entries, like the Sunday 15K mega turbo and 50K 7 pm game, are a different story.

I live half the time in Los Angeles and play live daily at either the Hollywood Park or Commerce. At some point, every player on the table sits out for a short period of time. If you race out to a large chip lead in one of the endless registration games, it makes sense to sit out for a couple of button passes and bypass some of the variance. Larry Flynt has his Sunday afternoon stud game and those guys sit out from time to time.

Why wouldn't you want very loose players calling big 3bets with ace/rag? Seems like free chips to me. If you have an edge than sitting out is never a +ev move, period. Now if you're a donk that binks some lucky hands early in a tournament then sure, take an hour off so you don't lose them all back right away. But, if you have an edge then there's no reason why missing hands is +ev.

And to your point that his queen could've lost to 8/3 off... really? So you think it's better to just miss the hand because maybe he gets it in good and still loses? That's poker. If you get it in with queens against 8/3 off, whether you win or lose the hand that's a huge win long term.

Ideally, and mathematically, it is good to be against loose sloppy players. The only caveat is I am far below break even with those hands it is sick. I get demolished in the opening hour usually. I did win a seat and played from level one, made it through 5 hours of late registration, and cashed in the middle of the pack Friday night in the OSS game that was either 50 or 60 buyin. That is an aberration for me. Not sour grapes, just happy to avoid it. A friend loves playing from hand 1 and avoids the landmines. He went real deep in the 250 WU; yet, he will not enter a tournament very late. Different strokes I suppose.

The post discussing the queens made it sound as if it was almost a sure thing. I've been playing seriously for over 20 years. I usually play cash games and there is no break on the table. You sit out when you need the bathroom, stretch, make a call, etc... everyone does it. You get a button pass before you lose your seat if there are others waiting, although the regs usually protect each other's seat. Not knowing what I had that was mucked, I would say with complete certainty that hands I was away for would have won. Probably many times, too. It is not realistic to sit for every hand over a long period of time. You would like to be there for big pockets, but there is no assurance they win anyway. I sat for 31 hours straight once at the Hollywood Park. I probably took 10 breaks. Everyone that sits for long periods of play does the same.

If you ever play in the WSOP, the bathroom lines are abysmal. The 15 minute break every couple of hours gets hundreds of people waiting until that time. Every first timers does it and they use the bathrooms that are closest to the room. The port-a-pottys outside have long waits. You will see the pros get up and move about while play is going on. It is just part of the game and helps you stay fresh. I used to jump up and down while playing online waiting for the break, no more.

Punters gonna punt, get in early and run it back to the house!

The OD SnGos are the same as a 45 man

Of course queens are not a sure thing. Neither are aces. I know the math. But as another poster said, all you can do it get it in good. Poker is about making good decisions, jumping on that variance train and going along for the ride.

I only play tournaments. I occasionally miss hands, both live and online, but it's rare. When I'm playing live I'm careful about how much I drink. Sometimes the bathroom are crowded and I miss a hand, but it doesn't happen often.

Cash is of course a different animal. Losing a cash game hand or missing a chance to play a top 5% hand doesn't affect what happens in future hands, because you don't have to deal with being short stacked and having to shove with a hand much weaker than the queens you didn't play..

why does pocket fives not have results for million dollar sundays?

Why does a 6-max mtt with 17 players have 4 tables with 4-4-4-5, instead of 3 tables with 6-6-5? You may as well just call it a 4-max mtt pretty much

I've never had an issue with tables breaking incorrectly on acr. Did you not go to 6-6-6 at 18?

It might have been because it was still in the last stages of late-reg, that's the only reason I can think of. Either way it's still kinda silly, especially for an $88 mtt lol.

Actually, I have seen this odd seating arrangement the last several weeks at the end of registration. In one of the PLO games last night, there was a table of 9/7/6, pretty sure that was the make-up, and it went for longer than just the hand being played out.

Personally, I prefer that over a brand new table of last minute players with starting stacks adding an hour or more til the bubble, except when I'm short stacked on the short table