multi tabling solves this problem

Get another monitor. If you like money, the more tourneys you play, the more money you could possibly make. I play more tourneys to try and reduce variance as well. It's good value. That is why you should still play it.

Even worse than your last response, well done.

Starting this back up to the posts that should be happening here, Shipped the 5$ 1k yesterday to have a great day.

This may have been said already but please fix the bug where you have to click "Deal Me In" when you are moved to a new table in a tournament.

I love the nightly turbo Megastack.

The $2 and $3 Big 10's start so late w/ the 3 hours of late reg. running these 2-3 hours earlier will help them hit the gtd. soooo late

The satellites do no show the correct tournament ID of the seats that are won?

EVERY tourney is reentry? Wtf

Would you guys consider going back to normal tournaments? You have a really great opportunity to make huge leaps once you get BTC rolled out, but the players have made it very clear they don't want to play unlimited reentries with ridiculous late reg.

Look at WPN and Merge; you guys both use the same terrible structure and the guarantees are small. Merge has consistently lost tournament players since they changed from normal structures to what you guys do.

Now, let's look at Bovada. No reentries in any tournaments and a more normal registration period. Some is longer the others, but that is ok if it's not a reentry. Bovada crushes there guarantees every single night of the week with a normal structure. Their Sunday $100K guarantee is consistently coming close to DOUBLE the guaranteed amount. No other American facing site can even come close to competing with their tournaments.

You guys are the last hope to give us a real option. You seem very willing to listen to players and make changes so please, at least try this. Sure it may lead to smaller guarantees at first, but once people catch wind of the change I think you'd see huge turn outs considering the promotions you put on and many other benefits. Lots of people dislike anonymous poker but even more don't like playing the unplayable reentry tournaments.

If anything at least make a poll and let the players vote on it.

^^^^THIS, 3 hours is ridiculous

Merge runs typically longer than 3 hours of late reg - on WPN I hardly notice it. Hard to argue with their relative success too, considering where they were with their MTT schedule a few months ago. I don't even mind the re-entries - again, for a good player, that's very +EV to have fish reloading over and over.

Bovada is far and away the best in terms of MTT's - but WPN has a long way to go to be able to get to that level. At least WPN isn't changing GTD amounts, or dropping tournaments on the day of like Merge has in the past couple months.

Aint gonna happen and it would also not represent the player base either unless you of course assume that almost every MTT player on WPN is also a member on 2+2 and checks the forum regularly.

+1, as well.

Who the *** cares if every tournament is re entry??? They aren't forcing you to re enter and it only grows the prize pools. If they didnt have re entry you would all probably be bitchin about how low the prize pools are. You can't have it both ways, just be happy we have a decent site to play at while out government continues to bend us over.

Well, considering a lot of us posting here are winners, or more likely to be, we should all care. Clutch(who is a winning player) made a great post regarding why reentry is bad for the site as a whole in the Merge discussion thread. Without posting a wall of text the cliffs are that fish go broke faster, fish don't have a chance to win, fish leave the site. When people like us can push our edge by reentering until we run it up the recs don't have much of a chance. The beauty of MTT poker is every player can get lucky and have a chance to win. That isn't the case any more. Daniel Negranue(sp?) made a good post on his site about this in regards to live poker.

There is a place for reentries, but it isn't in every single tournament. If it were the majors and capped it'd make sense. I'm less against extended late reg and more against unlimited reentries. 3 hours is acceptable, anything above that becomes ******ed.

Again, the number 1 poker site for US players, which also happens to be number 9 in the world for cash game traffic (no other US site is in the top 25) uses normal late reg and no reentries at all.

The guarantees may drop at first, but eventually they would organically grow instead of being manipulated to seem bigger. In the long run we'd all be much better off.

If WPN wants to be a real contender they need to stop with the gimmicks and offer a real poker option. While they have tons of great things going on they do a lot to suck as much rake as possible while not growing the player base.

Which site is that you mention is #9 in world for cash game traffic

Google and Pokerscout are both your friends.
Not to be nit picking, but WPN is 24 and Merge 25 atm.
Which still doesn't mean that you represent the majority of the player pool on the network. I understand where you are coming from but if you would make the whole thing as winner friendly as possible, how do you intend to attract fish at the same time?

You do realize it is winner friendly right? The only people who benefit from unlimited reentry is the absolute best players and the site. Fish and average regs get crushed by them. Again, Merge is the perfect example of this since it's tracked. Go browse around OPR for a bit and see who's winning.

How can fish compete if they have to put out the best guy in the tournament 5+ times? They can't...... it takes much of the luck factor away that makes MTT poker so desirable for recs. How can average regs compete if they are playing the best of the best the majority of the time when they run deep? They can't...... Reentries destroys what has made MTT poker so popular. What's the fishies favorite saying, a chip and a chair? They still have a chip and a chair, but not much of a chance.

Bovada is and they are avg. 1,200 more players than both WPN and Merge. Their tournaments are also destroying the guarantees on both WPN and Merge and most are 1 hour late reg and NONE of them are reentries. The site with the worst software and the worst rewards is #1 in the US industry and it's not even close. Yet WPN should keep doing what they're doing, right? This network is missing the boat and in a big way. No excuse for why they aren't just as big as Bovada, if not bigger.

I've been sitting here thinking about how they could test out the response of players about reentry or no reentry. Why not implement a few new tournaments at various buy in levels w/out reentry and see how they do over the course of a month? Maybe $5.50, $11, $22, $60, or a combination of a few of those or some of those + some bigger buy ins. Make them a different color and make it obvious they are not reentry.

It's not like the schedule couldn't use a few more tournaments from 7PM EST-12PM EST anyway.

You do realize that until about august, WPN didn't have this late reg/re entry "issue" and they didnt have the traffic to make anyone happen.

Comparing them to Bovada is stupid. Bovada has one of the biggest, if not the biggest sports book attached to its poker client that is why they do so well. Fish come in from sports and regs come in to eat up the fish.

You do realize they had software that is even more awful then it currently is around that time too, right? They also didn't have many tournaments then, which they still don't. Thanks for brining something productive to the table though. I'm sure bleeding the fish and ruining the fun and integrity of online poker tournaments is a great thing for long term stability. It must be why many people much smarter than the both of us in the poker industry think it's an awful thing.

The Sports Book thing is no excuse. Merge was bigger than Bovada for a very long time before they obliterated their network with a smaller Sportsbook than Bovada.

The WPT especially in North America seems to think differently, just to give a current example from the live circuit as well.
WPT and EPT have also extended their late registration as well just to give another example of what is quite similar on WPN. Just some food for thought.