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05-14-2013 , 04:31 PM
Since the Winning Poker Network (WPN) has its own sub forum now and a lot of members on 2+2 complained before that the MTT schedule needs a face lift, we shall use this thread to discuss suggestions.

To start of, a quote from another thread to get the discussion started:

Quote:
Originally Posted by IHasTehNutz
More of the $5.50 or $11 buy-in tourneys with $1k-$2k GTD variety. A lot of their 1-2k GTD's are either $6.60-type unlimited rebuy games or have buy-ins at $22 or higher. I don't mind the late reg and current blind structure - I'd just like more available tourneys that aren't gimmicked with R/A's or turbo structures to be able to play leading up to the nightly 10k that also won't cost $100 or more in entry fees. A $1k GTD for $11, for instance, only needs 101 players to reach a true profit on the tourney for WPN.

They don't need to make a hundred daily tournaments like that - but a nice 3-5 per day would be reason enough for me to play more regularly.
05-14-2013 , 05:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 39suited
Since the Winning Poker Network (WPN) has its own sub forum now and a lot of members on 2+2 complained before that the MTT schedule needs a face lift, we shall use this thread to discuss suggestions.

To start of, a quote from another thread to get the discussion started:
Not to bring back any bad memories for any one, but if you do add $5.50 and $11 GTD's as suggested, why not do what the old AP and UB rooms did and offer 25c and 50c satellites for them? 1 seat for every 10 players?

Right now, if you don't have a decent bankroll, even the $3, $4 and $5 satellites with the re-buys and long late registration periods are too expense for casual players to even try to get their foot in the door on the good guarantees.

You really need to think more about the the micro limit and low limit tournament players, there are more of them than any other players...............Just a suggestion............
05-14-2013 , 06:27 PM
The good: The new Wednesday $150 bi tournament is awesome. They are running a ton of satis for this tomorrow and hopefully it starts crushing the gtd and it becomes a nightly tournament.

As others have said, 15 minute blinds are great for weekends but during the week we need 10 minute blind tournaments and turbos. Please don't start all tournaments at the top of the hour too.

Run another $25 tournament next to the nightly $25 10k...this one make a 5k guarantee. It will not have an overlay I'm sure....

More tournaments pleasssse...other than that, no complaints
05-14-2013 , 09:33 PM
Definitely run more turbos. Lots more turbos. And then go ahead and add more turbos after you do that.
05-14-2013 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by fsu2010
Definitely run more turbos. Lots more turbos. And then go ahead and add more turbos after you do that.
so what exactly are you saying?
05-15-2013 , 06:19 AM
1. Move the 750 GTD up to 1am with the 4 dollar rebuy. No one ever plays in that 200gtd. If you do this you can up the GTD to a 1k and 750 and people will play.

The lack of any tourneys starting a 1am kills the action.

2.Also fix the play structure of the 20 rebuy that starts at 11pm. It was a 300 dollar bubble in a 20 rebuy.

3. Add a 600/1200 blind level to all tourneys

4. Only allow re-entry for 1 hour, except in tourneys like the 50k and nightly 10k, I understand its good to have tourneys that get big GTDs.

5. As far as adding turbos goes. Maybe having some 11 usd and 7.7 USD could help keep intrest. Maybe rotate that ever hour or have a turbo start at :30 after and have them rotate between 7.7, 12, and 24, then have a 5 turbo ever other hour.

6. Have at least one or two extra big sunday tourneys. Nothing crazy but I'm sure if its possible to make a few of the regular tourneys a bigger GTD (make an extra 10k and 15k in the mix). Then run sattys for it.
05-15-2013 , 10:52 AM
Not every tournament needs to have a Guarantee. Yea its nice for the player but i feel like the tournament buy-ins are higher because they are trying to get to the guarantee and we end up with less tournaments.

Also are there any KO tournaments because i haven't seen any yet. If not please add more.
05-15-2013 , 02:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by idun215
Not every tournament needs to have a Guarantee. Yea its nice for the player but i feel like the tournament buy-ins are higher because they are trying to get to the guarantee and we end up with less tournaments.

Also are there any KO tournaments because i haven't seen any yet. If not please add more.
There is a $10 KO but I don't think it has a GTD
05-15-2013 , 02:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by clutch352

3. Add a 600/1200 blind level to all tourneys
Please don't do this unless the blind structure becomes 10mins rather than the 15mins it is right now
05-15-2013 , 04:48 PM
Streamline Streamline Streamline....

This is so easy and yet poker sites never get it..

$1, $5.50, $11, $27.50, $55, $109 , $215

Make all your tourneys freeze outs / rebuys in those denominations

THEN

$1 satties to the 5.50,
5.50 satties to the 11 and so on

Change satty structure to a normal turbo instead of this uber turbo late crap.

Run early, Run often...

You do this, you will have major success....
05-15-2013 , 07:15 PM
90 player double stack turbo SNGs for 1, 3, and $5 buy-ins.
05-15-2013 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DDunkinstein
90 player double stack turbo SNGs for 1, 3, and $5 buy-ins.
they will never fill up
05-15-2013 , 08:19 PM
Have more starting chips for the 15k gtd. Maybe 10k stacks or if you are worried about not getting enough re entry make it 7500 starting stack. The better structure should attract more players.
05-15-2013 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisp200
Please don't do this unless the blind structure becomes 10mins rather than the 15mins it is right now
I actually like the 15min levels. Need to keep some like this. If you drop to 10 min levels AND add more turbos then the whole schedule becomes one giant crap shoot. Also having better structured tournaments allows me to keep less on line which I appreciate.

Need to fix the structure of the 10k deep. Why does the 2500/5 get skipped. I can see removing levels early when ppl are hella deep but don't cheapen the structure when only a handful of ppl are left.
05-15-2013 , 10:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilprog
Streamline Streamline Streamline....

This is so easy and yet poker sites never get it..

$1, $5.50, $11, $27.50, $55, $109 , $215

Make all your tourneys freeze outs / rebuys in those denominations

THEN

$1 satties to the 5.50,
5.50 satties to the 11 and so on

Change satty structure to a normal turbo instead of this uber turbo late crap.

Run early, Run often...

You do this, you will have major success....
+1,000,000
05-16-2013 , 12:31 AM
Just started playing on ACR today(have been playing on Lock and Carbon) and i noticed a couple of things that im either missing or they really need to fix...

1. Can you not have more than 1 tourny lobby open at the same time?
2. Can you not always be seated in the same seat when you start a tourny/get moved to another table?
3. When looking at the tourny lobby, why is it that it only shows upcoming tourny a few hours in advance? ie. At 12:00ET today, i couldnt see that there was a $33/1.5k tourny starting at 16:00ET etc...

Overall the mtts are super soft (alot softer than revolution and merge), and the quicker cash out times seem to be a positive...just seems like there is some tweaking that needs to get done...
05-16-2013 , 12:44 AM
Without a doubt lower buy in with some guarantee. Maybe 1.10 $250 turbo. As it sits right now the value of buy in/guarantee is just not enticing to the casual player. Also more satties with low buyins if possible awarding a few seats would get more people playing. I just can't find my groove at BCP with the high buyin tournaments and the rake of the BBJP and beast nothing really appeals to me other than the support that BCP has given in the past. Add the glitchy software and lag with PT4 it's hard to find a reason to play as of late.
05-16-2013 , 01:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisp200
they will never fill up
At those buy-ins and the fact that they're turbos I don't think WPN would have a problem
05-16-2013 , 01:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrawMeOut
Without a doubt lower buy in with some guarantee. Maybe 1.10 $250 turbo. As it sits right now the value of buy in/guarantee is just not enticing to the casual player. Also more satties with low buyins if possible awarding a few seats would get more people playing. I just can't find my groove at BCP with the high buyin tournaments and the rake of the BBJP and beast nothing really appeals to me other than the support that BCP has given in the past. Add the glitchy software and lag with PT4 it's hard to find a reason to play as of late.

Whether others agree or not the Daily Dollar on FTP was the greatest tourney ever created. Sooooo many donks and sooooo many SSMT regs and a few MSMT regs. Sure it was a crapshoot at times but it attracted all types of MTT players
05-16-2013 , 10:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilprog
Streamline Streamline Streamline....

This is so easy and yet poker sites never get it..

$1, $5.50, $11, $27.50, $55, $109 , $215

Make all your tourneys freeze outs / rebuys in those denominations

THEN

$1 satties to the 5.50,
5.50 satties to the 11 and so on

Change satty structure to a normal turbo instead of this uber turbo late crap.

Run early, Run often...

You do this, you will have major success....
agreed +1
05-16-2013 , 04:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilprog
Streamline Streamline Streamline....

This is so easy and yet poker sites never get it..

$1, $5.50, $11, $27.50, $55, $109 , $215

Make all your tourneys freeze outs / rebuys in those denominations

THEN

$1 satties to the 5.50,
5.50 satties to the 11 and so on

Change satty structure to a normal turbo instead of this uber turbo late crap.

Run early, Run often...

You do this, you will have major success....
this ^ although id prefer 22$ and 33$ instead of 27.50

I am an ether VIP(rake about 1k a month) mtt player on carbon, and have looked into switching to BCP due to the bs 8-10 week cashouts on merge but after looking at your tournaments I will not be switching, at least yet

The tournament pages and lists are "cleaner" looking on carbon, more per hour, better guarentees that make more sense satellite structure is cleaner, please fix this and your traffic will flow, i will switch, more ppl will be happy and BCP can come out on top as the leading US site, I would love to see this and switch but have little faith in the sites doing things correctly anymore but i hope you prove me wrong
05-16-2013 , 05:16 PM
I think its more of a software issue regarding their SnG traffic. Its not the best software for SnG play.
05-16-2013 , 11:10 PM
I love the deep starting stacks and slow structure. Please do not change structures of current tournaments . Also you should probably lower the minimum numbers of players required to start some of the smaller guaranteed mtts.
05-17-2013 , 10:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisp200
The good: The new Wednesday $150 bi tournament is awesome. They are running a ton of satis for this tomorrow and hopefully it starts crushing the gtd and it becomes a nightly tournament.

As others have said, 15 minute blinds are great for weekends but during the week we need 10 minute blind tournaments and turbos. Please don't start all tournaments at the top of the hour too.

Run another $25 tournament next to the nightly $25 10k...this one make a 5k guarantee. It will not have an overlay I'm sure....

More tournaments pleasssse...other than that, no complaints
The payout is not awesome. Maybe I am used to playing the PokerStars Daily 50K or 70K with 162 buyins or 109 buyins with 50K or 40K Guaranteed, but a 162 Buyin with 15K G is not great when you also have a 27.50 Buyin 10K G a few hours later. I agree that a schedule sorta like Lock with more 11 and 22 buyin MTTs would be nice...
05-17-2013 , 11:24 AM
have bigger guarantees! if you guys would have bigger and more mtt more players would want to play them. the 25 rb is a good tournament have more things like that throughout the day.

      
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