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WPN currently has no rules against timing down on purpose in husngs WPN currently has no rules against timing down on purpose in husngs

01-07-2014 , 01:04 AM
After speaking to support and having a couple players purposely use all of their time bank vs me at every action I have realized that WPN doesn't have a rule in place to counter act this unethical strategy.

These players are abusing the rules to their advantage, in what is a clear violation of the spirit of the game and abuse of the time given for every action. The effect in a hyper husng is that both players just essentially pay rake, as edge decreases significantly as blinds increase.

I have even shown support screenshots of a player blatantly admitting in chat that he is timing down vs me, but WPN won't budge since it's currently not against the rules.

All major poker sites I know of penalize this kind of play or at least warn players against doing it in the future.

The purpose of this thread is just to hopefully show WPN that a rule change would be supported by the community.
01-07-2014 , 01:18 AM
Pretty absurd that WPN still doesn't do anything about this, and it is one of the reasons I stopped playing on WPN months ago. Allowing this kills edge and competition in the games. Ridiculous that the network sanctions intentional timedowners who do it just to tilt others or kill edge to get lobbies. Other top networks (see: Stars) will email warnings, and if those are unheeded will contemplate further action -- the people doing this rarely last long there. All it takes is a policy that intentionally timing down on every decision is against the rules and some warnings fired out by the site and this stops completely.

Not only is this tilting like in cash games, at hypers it can actually make the games unbeatable. Change this please.
01-07-2014 , 02:10 AM
I think that this is a good idea and WPN should make this change.

Not only is it against the spirit of the game to intentionally time down against an opponent, but it also takes a lot of fun away from the game for players of all levels. If you don't want to face an opponent then you decline the rematch. If they keep sitting you, then you should sit someone else in the lobby instead. Timing down is a poor method to take and poker rooms should not (and many do not) tolerate it.
01-07-2014 , 04:37 PM
Any network that wants players to take it seriously bans this sort of behavior. It is clearly against the spirit of the game, is an easy rule to enforce, and the players who do this do not benefit anyone but themselves, regs lose interest in the site if they can't protect lobbies, fish lose interest in the site when they can't play a fast paced game, and the site loses most of all when all the real rake and deposit generating players move to other networks.
01-07-2014 , 04:51 PM
I agree, a rule change should be implemented immediately. This happened to me on Stars and FTP several times and one time I actually received an out of the blue email from Stars support for a player doing this to me. Rewarded with a free tourney entry and refund for the game. Nothing more annoying then these type of actions.
01-07-2014 , 05:22 PM
I see they haven't officially responded, but I spoke directly to two people at the network about this. They were disturbed by the behavior and after discussing possible suggestions, they promised to do something about it


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Kahn
01-07-2014 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
I think that this is a good idea and WPN should make this change.

Not only is it against the spirit of the game to intentionally time down against an opponent, but it also takes a lot of fun away from the game for players of all levels. If you don't want to face an opponent then you decline the rematch. If they keep sitting you, then you should sit someone else in the lobby instead. Timing down is a poor method to take and poker rooms should not (and many do not) tolerate it.
+1000
01-07-2014 , 07:12 PM
100% in support of this, hopefully someone from WPN figures out that this is a problem and that it's bad for the games.
01-07-2014 , 07:46 PM
that really is some bs
they need to change that asap
01-08-2014 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
I see they haven't officially responded, but I spoke directly to two people at the network about this. They were disturbed by the behavior and after discussing possible suggestions, they promised to do something about it


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Kahn
In Kahn we trust! Thank you.
01-12-2014 , 09:23 AM
My question is why would they take up all the time every hand? What is the point of that? I have had players harrass me in heads up cash games. They sit hit and run for a few bucks then talk mess in the chat. Then you try not to play them and they table block your tables it makes you quit and not play. We should be allowed to block players from playing us. Or remove or suspend the player from the site. Either way any sort of harrassing or playing unethically should not be allowed period. I know in a casino if some player is cursing or trying to cause problems among other players they are told to leave for the night.
01-12-2014 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by igopoopy
My question is why would they take up all the time every hand? What is the point of that? I have had players harrass me in heads up cash games. They sit hit and run for a few bucks then talk mess in the chat. Then you try not to play them and they table block your tables it makes you quit and not play.

I believe you've answered your own question sir.

There is ofc another group that does this sort of thing to quickly get the game down to Nash levels and then they play quickly. Their entire point I believe is to tilt their opponent today or later on in the future in such a way that they end up with an edge.


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Kahn
01-12-2014 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by igopoopy
I know in a casino if some player is cursing or trying to cause problems among other players they are told to leave for the night.
Yet you suggest for a lesser offense and online that they should be gone completely?
Quote:
Originally Posted by igopoopy
We should be allowed to block players from playing us. Or remove or suspend the player from the site. Either way any sort of harrassing or playing unethically should not be allowed period.

      
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