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Would this sats system work in wpn? Would this sats system work in wpn?

12-08-2015 , 11:21 PM
Iam thinking in something like stars does.

In terms of aspect, instead of display them in the general lobby, put them inside the target tournament lobby. Keep the general lobby as clean and user friendly as possible.

The hyper sats, convert them in hyper turbo 6max sngs sats always present in the lobby of the target tourney.

Big 10 5000k gtd 55$, 4000gtd 66$, 10k gtd 30$, 4000gtd 8 max 44$, big 10 109$, all the 33 turbos.... you go to the tourney lobby and you have a 9 max sng sat, a 6 max hyper turbo sat and you can also include a jackpot sng satellite. Every time one fills other opens to registration.

You open the mid stakes to the micro and low stakes players. You have a solution for sng grinders, you have more recs in the games who will attract more regs.

Is this possible? Pros and Cons you guys see in this model, not just from players perspective but also from WPN business pov.
12-09-2015 , 11:59 AM
@Pagasses, I like the idea of adding sats to those mid range mtt's a lot. The only thing you proposed I don't think they could do is put Jackpot sats in the target event lobby (I could be wrong). But yeah, 9-mans and 6-mans for these $33-$109 tournaments make a ton of sense, can't hurt anything, and can only help the fields grow.

You could even go so far as to add sats to smaller events. The $22 Sunday one would be great to open the door to more micro stakes players to get into. In comparison to Stars, look at the Sunday Storm... it's only $11 but they run a zillion sats to it for FPP's and pennies which are quite popular and help grow the field with at least some % of players with <$11 in their account.
12-09-2015 , 12:01 PM
This has been suggested and received favorably by WPN, but I can't remember if they went so far as adding it to their software improvement "to-do" list. (Having links to the sats within the specific MTT's lobby.)
12-09-2015 , 12:11 PM
FWIW... Every sat for a particular tournament is in the internal lobby of the tournament you want. I cant just have them there they also have to be in the general lobby but you click the GTD tab and that will remove the majority of the sats.

A while back i had 6 max sngs to every single big10 tournament. For one reason or another they just never seem to run so i removed them as there was just no point in having them.
12-09-2015 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
FWIW... Every sat for a particular tournament is in the internal lobby of the tournament you want.
Okay so I'm a BIT out of touch!
12-09-2015 , 02:59 PM
I like the idea. Also, I just started playing on Party again within the last two weeks and noticed they now have standardized buying for tourneys and sngs and tickets that can be used for either. They also work with the step sngs so say for example you win a step 3 ticket but would rather try to boost your bankroll than play a step 4 you could play any sng or tourney with the ticket. Not quite as flexible as tourney bucks but still decent imo.
12-09-2015 , 03:53 PM
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I like the idea. Also, I just started playing on Party again within the last two weeks and noticed they now have standardized buying for tourneys and sngs and tickets that can be used for either. They also work with the step sngs so say for example you win a step 3 ticket but would rather try to boost your bankroll than play a step 4 you could play any sng or tourney with the ticket. Not quite as flexible as tourney bucks but still decent imo.
+100 to the idea of steps. I started thinking a bit about steps in the context of the T$2 tickets that were handed out before the $1M GTD, and it got me thinking down a rabbit hole about them. I really think step SnGs would be a great idea where tickets could be used to play 1) more step SnGs, 2) regular $ SnGs (including ODs), and 3) tournaments. Finally, step tickets can be converted to cash with a penalty akin to rake...so like a $5.50 step ticket could be converted to $5 cash.

Here are some of the benefits I imagine coming from this:
1) You get MTT players playing SnGs. SnG traffic goes up.
2) You get SnG players playing MTTs. MTT traffic goes up.
3) You get more (softer) traffic at the middle stakes. I'm not saying this as some mid-stakes shark...I'm down in the micros. But aside from being good for regs, this also creates much better traffic at slightly higher levels (that are now pretty sparse), which in turn might attract more traffic to the site. Also, it can be fun for recreational players to use tickets to take shots at $30 SnGs or MTTs or whatever
4) $$ stays in circulation longer and is guaranteed to be raked through either in more step SnGs, regular SnGs/MTTs, or by being converted to cash.
5) The idea that a $1.50 step ticket could be turned into a $5, then $15, then $50, then $150, then $500 ticket then $2250 cash is really appealing to many players, could bring in new traffic.
6) You keep regs on their toes as ICM calculations would vary from level to level as, assuming the steps above were used, 3rd place scores would vary, etc. This creates a bit of a vacuum as people adjust to these games, which I think is cool.
7) You can start working these into promos, or create new promos around these. Start running freerolls that grant step tokens. Start doing "challenges" or granting little "step king" trophies that don't just reward grinders, but recreational players too. To fund these you could use some of the "double rake" you'll get when someone plays a $5 step tourney, earns a $16.50 ticket, but then converts it to $15 cash and still plays with that money.

Ok, some of those benefits are more significant than others, and some probably wouldn't be realized. But I think if WPN launched steps and actually incentivized/promoted them as opposed to just throwing them in the lobby, they really could be a boon for the site.
12-09-2015 , 04:44 PM
Again FWIW once we have tickets i will 100% be doing step type SNG;s
12-09-2015 , 05:34 PM
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Again FWIW once we have tickets i will 100% be doing step type SNG;s
Ayyy, good to hear it.

      
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