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04-26-2015 , 05:00 PM
Winning_TD

I have a question, I'm currently playing a MTT. 15 places pay. We got down to 15 with 2 levels of late reg to go? But then more people reg'd. This is a very confusing situation because technically we allready made it itm. Can i have some clarification please?
04-26-2015 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by berry1
Winning_TD

I have a question, I'm currently playing a MTT. 15 places pay. We got down to 15 with 2 levels of late reg to go? But then more people reg'd. This is a very confusing situation because technically we allready made it itm. Can i have some clarification please?
You can be down to heads up and if late reg is open well you got to beat them too. If it ends with late reg open then it over.
04-26-2015 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by berry1
Winning_TD

I have a question, I'm currently playing a MTT. 15 places pay. We got down to 15 with 2 levels of late reg to go? But then more people reg'd. This is a very confusing situation because technically we allready made it itm. Can i have some clarification please?
This happens alot in sattys. They let u rebuy for 1.5 bb cuz TD doesnt know how to run a poker room.
04-26-2015 , 05:25 PM
that seems kind of weird. I've talked to guys that were regs on UB back in the day and they used to collude in sats at the very start. everyone shove first hand to end the satty with a big overlay and then chop profits. Guess wpn is leaving themselves open to such a scenario. Seemed so bizzare for it to happen in a mtt though. It was the $1k gtd 4max. Id reccomend change late reg to 1 hr and making it a $500 gtd
04-26-2015 , 05:27 PM
I think for some tournaments the late reg time should automatically end when the gtd is reached.
04-26-2015 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by berry1
that seems kind of weird. I've talked to guys that were regs on UB back in the day and they used to collude in sats at the very start. everyone shove first hand to end the satty with a big overlay and then chop profits. Guess wpn is leaving themselves open to such a scenario. Seemed so bizzare for it to happen in a mtt though. It was the $1k gtd 4max. Id reccomend change late reg to 1 hr and making it a $500 gtd
It is funny you bring this up cuz there is alot about this site that scream ap/ub. I sometimes wounder who owns this site and if they are anyway connected to ross and his boys. I mean they got away with it once and seems like these guys bought doyles room after ap got shut down. I'm just saying.
04-26-2015 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by berry1
I think for some tournaments the late reg time should automatically end when the gtd is reached.
This is unfair some people late reg a last min. If it say a time then they got to stick to it.
04-26-2015 , 05:42 PM
cheaters dont care about other cheaters just sayin
04-26-2015 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DustinOGCharger
You can be down to heads up and if late reg is open well you got to beat them too. If it ends with late reg open then it over.
this is not true

if the MTT pays 15 it will auto close when it hits 14th with 15th getting 15th spot money
04-26-2015 , 06:07 PM
Nope the 1k gtd max had enough players to pay 15 and it said paying 15. When we got down to 15 late reg stayed open. more players signed up and it ended up paying 18. There were 20 alive when late reg actually closed. Min cash was 2buy ins so the bubble meant a little bit
04-26-2015 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by berry1
Nope the 1k gtd max had enough players to pay 15 and it said paying 15. When we got down to 15 late reg stayed open. more players signed up and it ended up paying 18. There were 20 alive when late reg actually closed. Min cash was 2buy ins so the bubble meant a little bit
What you're saying does not negate what he said.
04-26-2015 , 06:41 PM
haha yea true. Just reread it.
04-26-2015 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DIRTYDOGGPOKER
this is not true

if the MTT pays 15 it will auto close when it hits 14th with 15th getting 15th spot money
I am pretty sure I have seen this happen couple times. I may be wrong tho.
04-26-2015 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DustinOGCharger
I am pretty sure I have seen this happen couple times. I may be wrong tho.
Maybe but i seen it in several MTT there when it hits the money spot it not close but once the 1st money spot is out it does close

in the case given was 15 left and reg stays open yes
but with 15 paid and 14 left it shuts down

This is just what i have seen 1st hand does it happen every time i have no clue but assume it does
04-26-2015 , 11:44 PM
75 entries in the high roller and your paying 15 spots? Really?

Please fix this asap, no reason to pay more then the final table with a field under 100.

Also how about raising the guarntee to $30k its been consistently crushing it every week. Also making this a 6 max would be awesome.
04-27-2015 , 11:35 AM
Food for thought. I think you could put $5 and $10 MTT's popping off every thirty minutes and get your 100 entries no problem all the way up till 8 PM. $3, $5, and $10 re-buy's same thing with a little bit deeper starting stack (not much). Nothing after 8 that isn't a turbo is going to be very popular with 3 HR late reg and 15 minute levels. They just don't end till 3-4 AM. Makes for a ****ty day of work the next day. I have played the 9PM and 10 PM BIG 10's countless times and regret it every time I go deep and its like 2 AM and were still on the bubble.

$5 - $10 MTT's should be popping off constantly. If I can play I play everything between $3 and $33 that runs between both carbon and WPN from like 8 PM till 11PM. Right now there are 3 times as many $5-$10 MTT's on Carbon that are in most peoples bankrolls.

I'll still play the 10PM - 1130PM tourney's on Carbon because they are either turbo or 12 minute structure. 15 minute structure with 3 HR late reg is unplayable for east coast Americans that have real jobs.

All this being said, probably looking to start playing on Bovada soon instead of Carbon for obvious reasons but would much rather just play everything here. Just make it so we can have 8-15 games running for 3 or 4 hours and this site will crush.
04-27-2015 , 12:26 PM
everyone keep saying the same and they dont do anything about it...Unless they make an HI5 SERIES every month I fear this site will be just start to lose clients, bovada schedule is much better
04-27-2015 , 12:42 PM
Wont respond to all. Read everything.

Dustin - thanks for your support. Nice comments. Really constructive.

@ people who talk about Bovadas schedule compared to ours. Not sure if you are aware that they are the 4th largest site in the world. The can have smaller buy ins with bigger guarantees because of this. (no they didnt get to this size because of their schedule)

Lets see how the changes go. When you say everyone says the same thing and we do nothing about it im not quite sure what you mean. I often put in tournaments and implement ideas that come from you.

In regards to the high roller. Changing from a $20k to a $30k wouldnt drive more players to play. If you increase a guarantee it would really need to move to a $40k minimum. Making it a 6 max wouldnt be such a great idea if you want a bigger guarantee. I have many reports and its very well known that 6 max is no where near as popular as full ring. Recreational players prefer full ring.


I should also mention that over the last couple of weeks i have been creating a much steeper payout. Closer to 12%. This will be implemented very soon to more the lower and micros to start off with. It has taken me 2 years of battling with the CEO to allow me to do this so im sure you would want it in the higher stakes but that will have to wait.
04-27-2015 , 02:04 PM
Stop the 34 hours of late reg. It's not even poker. Run a normal tournament and people will come, until then, we will sit on the sideline. Some of us have jobs and can't spend 18 hours playing a tourney. It's a very simple fix. The site has sooooooooo much potential and is definately moving in the right direction. This would be HUGE.

Last edited by LiL Foldem; 04-27-2015 at 02:05 PM. Reason: guess ile play a mtt at bovada, even though id much rather prefer to give action to wpn
04-27-2015 , 02:32 PM
Ok i can give you all what you want.

2 hours late reg for everything and guarantee for 100 players Max?

i have added tournaments with 2 hours late reg and they are not crushing the guarantees.
04-27-2015 , 02:49 PM
TD- I don't play a lot of mtts on WPN, so forgive me if this is already an option, but has there been any thought to adding/redoing some of the nightly mtts and making them progressive prize pool tournaments similar to the Sunday Special? Start them with a conservative guarantee and bumping the prize pool 10-15% based on participation?

I feel like this would allow you to have some of the tournaments that players keep saying they want (with a clear path to grow the gtd's to what is requested), decreases your chances of overlaying, and can give you something to tie in with the success the Sunday Special has had.. "The Sunday Special has grown so much at WPN that we've decided to make every day a little special!"
04-27-2015 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
Ok i can give you all what you want.

2 hours late reg for everything and guarantee for 100 players Max?

i have added tournaments with 2 hours late reg and they are not crushing the guarantees.
I type what I am thinking probably not a good thing but hey just trying to help.
I did play in one with 2 hour reg. I was on final table before i knew it. It did make the GTD but barely. Most people like me dont bother looking at the tourneys anymore unless i got all day to play.
04-27-2015 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
Ok i can give you all what you want.

2 hours late reg for everything and guarantee for 100 players Max?

i have added tournaments with 2 hours late reg and they are not crushing the guarantees.
I hope you mean that you are going to add tournaments or change some of them, I don't want to see the GTDs going down, on say the 10K 28+2 or similar tournaments.

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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
I should also mention that over the last couple of weeks i have been creating a much steeper payout. Closer to 12%. This will be implemented very soon to more the lower and micros to start off with. It has taken me 2 years of battling with the CEO to allow me to do this so im sure you would want it in the higher stakes but that will have to wait.
Good to hear!
04-27-2015 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DustinOGCharger
I type what I am thinking probably not a good thing but hey just trying to help.
I did play in one with 2 hour reg. I was on final table before i knew it. It did make the GTD but barely. Most people like me dont bother looking at the tourneys anymore unless i got all day to play.
Well clearly you think that i should be replaced.

This is my point. For a very long time players have been saying they want 2 hour LR and 10 minute blinds. I add these and they barely at best make guarantees. How can i implement this structure for a lets say BIG10 without reducing guarantee just to get crushed on a daily basis?

On a personal level i would love every tournament to be max 2 HR LR without re entries. Unfortunately you have to sit on this side of the table to understand that we are no where near big enough to do that.

We are building, growing and these things take time.

In response do daily progressive tournaments. I did put that idea forward when we first thought of the Sunday special. Its an idea i like but it just wouldnt have the same impact as the Sunday special.
04-27-2015 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD

In regards to the high roller. Changing from a $20k to a $30k wouldnt drive more players to play. If you increase a guarantee it would really need to move to a $40k minimum. Making it a 6 max wouldnt be such a great idea if you want a bigger guarantee. I have many reports and its very well known that 6 max is no where near as popular as full ring. Recreational players prefer full ring.


I should also mention that over the last couple of weeks i have been creating a much steeper payout. Closer to 12%. This will be implemented very soon to more the lower and micros to start off with. It has taken me 2 years of battling with the CEO to allow me to do this so im sure you would want it in the higher stakes but that will have to wait.
I don't expect you to change it to $40k I don't think you guys have the player base yet to cover that every week. However, with it being stuck at $20k its really not gaining much momentum either. Increase it slowly even $25k sounds better then $20k.

With regards to 6 max I'm not sure you understand that this specific tourney is targeted more at high stakes players that will take 6 max over full ring any day. This isn't a rec. tourney I bet most of the people that play it just buy in and don't satelilte. 6 max for this tourney would be a huge success.

As far as payout goes again I think you guys are taking the wrong approach. You should start at the high buyins and work your way down. Most low limit players are happy with the flatter payout structures you have in place now. Its the $50+ tourney players that would like to see a more top heavy approach. I'm afraid by starting at the bottom your going to get the wrong reaction, when in fact the majority of non small buyin players would prefer the top heavy approach.

      
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