Poputchik, Vermesh, Codeinfo, Tinniks, Kaijet, SuperFrol11

all from russia
all very high 3b
all limp once in awhile fold 100% to raise
all call down very light in weird spots and guess right
all bluff the river 100% if you check back 3 times and they have air
all if check back flop will raise 100% of the time with no show down and fold to reraise.
All will not play against each other ever. But play anyone else not from russia

Seems like one bot using several id names.

Good luck not getting a bot thread closed on this sub-forum, they are in denial. Cross post this under whatever game type tab you play outside the reach of this sub-forum, then maybe they will learn their lesson when WPN+bot is 2+2 wide instead of self contained only here.

I seen threads about bots being posted before and not removed as long as you post some observations that show a obvious pattern that real players don't have.

You probably need to back this up with some numbers or retract it if it's just based on feel.

WOW this is a dream bot to play against.. give us the names so we can raise every single hand and check down to the river when we have nuts.

the names are listed go ahead and give it a shot.

Have they fkdu2tears yet?

those do sound like exploitable bots if it is true..what stakes/speed?

I kept reading this as if there was a comma after heads up and couldnt figure out how they would be able to beat rake playing each other

you guys think you can beat bots? Jungleman even has hard time with them he talked about it in a vid. Gl trying to beat them. They are still sitting on americas cardroom have fun trying to beat them. They all have around a 2% roi.

Because they have a 2% roi doesn't mean they are good but could mean their opponents are bad

I bet you I can beat the best bots out there. GUARANTEED. As long as you know how they work and their math you can always reverse engineer their strategy.

The best players in the world at other complex strategy games thought the same. They were proved wrong.

Wouldnt this be horribly easy to exploit???

If the statistics posted are true and they don't make adjustments then it would be very easy for a good player to exploit them.

We'll I guess that shows that their strategy and approach doesn't work? I bet all of them started off nitting vs a bot?

I'm not sure exactly what you're saying. I'm referring to how artificial intelligence has bested the best players in the world at Chess, Go, etc.

The amount of knowledge a computer can absorb these days is light years beyond what a single human is capable of. It would be incorrect to assume you would be able to exploit the best poker bots.

It would also be incorrect to assume a person could not exploit the best poker bot. Until it becomes an absolute that bots can beat the best human players on a regular basis I will side with humans. And the only way to prove it is to have the best players in the world play a bot for us all to see the results.

I can respect that opinion, but I'll side with the bots based on their wins in other complex strategy games as well as being 7 of the 10 highest winners found playing PLO on Pokerstars years ago. It's very likely that they'd be even better these days. I'd be happy to be proven wrong though.

I dont think humans can beat bots in games like Chess because its pretty basic rules. Even Checkers is basic. You dont have bluffs in those games like Poker.

The bots were even more powerful than just being 7 of the top 10 winners at PokerStars PLO100. I recently read where Grethe, one of the bot catchers, said that during the same time frame 15 of the top 20 winners at PokerStars PLO500 Zoom were bots.

The bot are powerful, consistent winners and the number one threat to game fair play. Although a subset of WPN posters and Reps would rather derail those truths.

no one is derailing truths that bots are a serious threat to poker. All that is happening is threads with marginal data/info such as this one are left open for a while until nothing more is contributed and it turns to wild omgz bots bcuz i say so, which results in a locking.

if anymore relevant info comes about happy to unlock

This is so tilting i can't get these images to show up. I don't know why they aren't popping up on here but can you see these 2 i played earlier kaijet, Djukich and vermish have the same stats

played exactly the same I played them on 6 tables. They both canceled after I played they never rematched and if i made a new table they would sit me and play. They both did that. And also never played each other but played anyone else who sat right away (that way only fish can sit them). But i sat on all their tables so they couldn't play fish and they both left after i think hr or 2 of play. Both left at the same time. So they are either magical twins or they are bots. And the rest I listed play the same. They all have a vpip between 80-86 and pfr between 50-60 and limp fold about 95% of the time. All have 3b of around 30-40% a 4b of 7-11% All with high flop raise about 35%. All with low fold ot cb under 40% and high fold to turn bet of over 50%

Its not a ton of hands but enough hands to see they are the same player using the same aggro style and on shark scope they all play the same games together and sit everyone but each other and all cancel their games and don't rematch but sit on your new table or start new table. Don't know what more evidence i can provide for acr to remove them. Those are the 3 I played today.

Those show up but what would be more helpful is posting the stats of how they're playing similar.